Omg ---> Fuel Prices!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[skwinty (Steve)]

Heard this on the radio this morning.
Farmers in America are replacing their tractors with mules for ploughing.
After this this announcer says, Thats nothing, our country is run by asses

[koputai (Jason)]

Originally Posted by cahullian

most europeans wouldn't drive that far to go on holiday.

No, they'd catch a train, Aussies wouldn't be seen dead on a train, trains are for poor people.
The reliance on cars is appalling, like the family in Western Sydney in the paper a few weeks ago. Four members of the same family household all work at the same place 20mins drive away. And they all drive there and back individually! Then they complain about petrol prices!
Don't forget, half the population is below average intelligence.

Cheers,
Jason.

[GeoffW1 (Geoff)]

Originally Posted by mark3d

i read today (crikey.com.au) that in 1998 oil was USD$10 per barrel ... today its USD$138

Petrol powered telescopes are in deep trouble

More seriously, a comparison of European fuel prices with a cost-of-living scale shows we may have a way to go yet, do you think?.

Cheers

[Ian Robinson]

Originally Posted by koputai

No, they'd catch a train, Aussies wouldn't be seen dead on a train, trains are for poor people.
The reliance on cars is appalling, like the family in Western Sydney in the paper a few weeks ago. Four members of the same family household all work at the same place 20mins drive away. And they all drive there and back individually! Then they complain about petrol prices!
Don't forget, half the population is below average intelligence.

Cheers,
Jason.

Most of us don't live anywhere that there is a decent and efficient public transport system , and are compelled to live where we can afford to either rent or buy homes, this is also most often somewhere the public transport is either none-existant or hopeless. So we have no option but to use our car.

Not to mention trains are hopeless if you need get somewhere. The buses are not much better.

Here in Newcastle / Lake Macquarie the trains and buses are a hopeless anyway , been many many years since I caught a bus , and last time I took a train it took something like 6 hours to go from Fassifern to Central .... (was cheap ... but took way too long and was dambed uncomfortable too).

[jjjnettie (Jeanette)]

Originally Posted by JimmyH155

Back to horses and bikes I say

LOLOL
Have you seen the price of horse feed lately?

Petroleum products should be used only by ambos, police and other emergency services.
We everyday drivers should be using electric cars, (or gas and bio-diesel powered vehicles.)
It's what it will come to in the end anyway.
All it takes is for one car manufacturer to bite the bullet and start putting out these types of cars in large numbers then they'll be sold at a reasonable price so that people can actually afford to buy them.

[Ian Robinson]

Originally Posted by jjjnettie

LOLOL
Have you seen the price of horse feed lately?

Petroleum products should be used only by ambos, police and other emergency services.
We everyday drivers should be using electric cars, (or gas and bio-diesel powered vehicles.)
It's what it will come to in the end anyway.
All it takes is for one car manufacturer to bite the bullet and start putting out these types of cars in large numbers then they'll be sold at a reasonable price so that people can actually afford to buy them.

Biodeisal has ethical and moral implications , but if you talking hydrogen fueled vehicles , then that's what's needed ....

[CoombellKid]

Originally Posted by nightstalker

A friend of my fathers Is paying 10 quid a gallon in the uk I believe
theres worse places to be filling up I guess.

I bike it into town if I need something small these days

And that will be the bench mark. I believe oil companies will increase the
price to the point where it really does start to efect their bottom line,
then they will plato off so to speak. I believe this is why we see different
prices for different countries. It's what the majority of people can afford,
in the end it's people in the low income bracket that will start to suffer...
they'll find themselves in positions where they cant afford a car. Wait until
you have to buy carbon credit in your rego it'll be another added cost to
running your car. Then when to high price green car comes onto the market
in real time most low income folks wont be able to afford them and will
be left paying through the nose on fosil fuels. The us and them, rich and
poor divide will move further apart. Public transport is a good thing but it
also has it's draw back... for one it's probably the biggest spreader of
influenza in Sydney.

regards,CS

[CoombellKid]

At the end of the day, if I can look through a scope at some other world,
star, galaxy, nebula, cluster...etc...etc... I can leave this world even just
for a moment. and think about the real things that should concern us... Is
there someone looking back at me, and if so do they like a cold beer : )
and back the Blues ; )

regards,CS

[CoombellKid]

Originally Posted by jjjnettie

LOLOL
Have you seen the price of horse feed lately?

I brought a 50kg bag of Lucerne chaff the other day for 59.00

regards,CS

[Karls48 (Karl)]

"I brought a 50kg bag of Lucerne chaff the other day for 59.00 "

And that gives you only one horsepower. But seriously, with financial institutions in
troubles, price of fuels so high and low food stocks worldwide there are some troubled times ahead of us.

[norm]

Wait until
you have to buy carbon credit in your rego it'll be another added cost to
running your car.

Ditto there Rob. If people think they're going to hurt now, wait until the above kicks in. People may have 2nd thoughts about global warming when at the end of the day it hits them directly in the hip pocket. It suddenly won't be a trendy, conscience thing to do anymore.

there are some troubled times ahead of us

I think so Karl. With wages not keeping up with inflation and the cost of everything going up, the Rudd government has certainly got a challenge on their hand.

Clear Skies
Norm

[Ian Robinson]

I saw a post on another board were a guy in Tx says he paid 89c / litre for Unleaded yesterday.

So how are we on world parity petrol prices exactly .... ???

I think it is about time the taxes on fuel were removed and the rich started paying their fair share of the tax burden , rather than those on lower incomes baring all of the pain.

We are all indirectly being taxed by the government everytime we put fuel in the tank, and it is those on lower income who this hirts the most.

[GTB_an_Owl (Geoff)]

time to put the welfare of the nation before the profits of the oil companies

keep OUR oil in australia


geoff

[GrahamL]

Chariots might be the go again soon .

[edwardsdj (Doug)]

I just borrowed my Mum's Mazda 323 for the 260km round trip to go and pick my daughter up. My fiancee was out in my Celica.

The 323 has a 1.3 litre engine (as opposed to the 2.2 litre in the Celica). It was so economical and as it's a wagon, could fit heaps of astro-gear Quite pleasant to drive too.

I think my next car will have a very small engine and a hatch I would say fuel costs were about half of what I'm used to in this thing.

[Suzy_A]

Anyone that drives a SAV (Suburban Assault Vehicle) or a car that uses 100 year old technology (like all Holdens, Fords etc) and uses 10+ L/100 km only has themselves to blame.

I have been running my 15 year-old car on used cooking oil for about 8 years now. I get 5.6 L/100 km and I'm planning on buying a new car soon. I will be disappointed if I don't get at least 3.5 L/100 km. I'll probably be driving from Perth to Sydney later this year and I wonder if I'll be able to do it without stopping at a service station this time The last time I drove from Perth to Adelaide and back to Perth, I had to stop once at a service station to buy fuel.

[Ian Robinson]

Originally Posted by edwardsdj

I just borrowed my Mum's Mazda 323 for the 260km round trip to go and pick my daughter up. My fiancee was out in my Celica.

The 323 has a 1.3 litre engine (as opposed to the 2.2 litre in the Celica). It was so economical and as it's a wagon, could fit heaps of astro-gear Quite pleasant to drive too.

I think my next car will have a very small engine and a hatch I would say fuel costs were about half of what I'm used to in this thing.

I had one of them in the 1970s .... pretty basic (mine was the 323 1400cc stationwagon) , ran on the smell of an oily rag .

[Ian Robinson]

Originally Posted by Suzy_A

Anyone that drives a SAV (Suburban Assault Vehicle) or a car that uses 100 year old technology (like all Holdens, Fords etc) and uses 10+ L/100 km only has themselves to blame.

I have been running my 15 year-old car on used cooking oil for about 8 years now. I get 5.6 L/100 km and I'm planning on buying a new car soon. I will be disappointed if I don't get at least 3.5 L/100 km. I'll probably be driving from Perth to Sydney later this year and I wonder if I'll be able to do it without stopping at a service station this time The last time I drove from Perth to Adelaide and back to Perth, I had to stop once at a service station to buy fuel.

But I like my Pajero .... and I can't afford to replace it at present .... heck it's only
just run in (just nudging 300k on the odometer) and as far as I can tell the it's still pretty good mechanically and there is no rust (despite being 15 years old).
It suits my lifestyle and I need it's cargo capacity and off terrain capability.

I wanted to do a dual fuel conversion but my engine can't be converted (but the model the year later can ....).

I don't anticipate going back giving away 4x4 vehicles despite the cost of fuel , the next one will have to be factory fitted dual fuel though. (A Prado or new model Pajero again perhaps).

[acropolite (Phil)]

HRH & I were planning another oddesey to Astrofest, but given the cost of fuel, we may not bother. We have a Prado 4WD for 2 reasons, we travel on rough gravel roads and have a boat to tow. Our car is economical being a diesel and returns averages under 10km/l (the best we have returned is 8.2/100Km, but with prices nudging $2 per litre for diesel, the fuel cost from Tassie is likeley to run to around 600-700 dollars. Then again if fuel gets even more expensive this may be the last affordable trip opportunity.

[Suzy_A]

Originally Posted by Ian Robinson

But I like my Pajero .... and I can't afford to replace it at present .... heck it's only
just run in (just nudging 300k on the odometer) and as far as I can tell the it's still pretty good mechanically and there is no rust (despite being 15 years old).
It suits my lifestyle and I need it's cargo capacity and off terrain capability.

I wanted to do a dual fuel conversion but my engine can't be converted (but the model the year later can ....).

I don't anticipate going back giving away 4x4 vehicles despite the cost of fuel , the next one will have to be factory fitted dual fuel though. (A Prado or new model Pajero again perhaps).

Well then, if you want to drive a SAV, then cough up the money for the fuel and stop complaining.

By the way, you know what 'Pajero' means? Don't bother with Babel Fish http://au.babelfish.yahoo.com/?fr=avbbf-au as it is censored and won't tell you what the naughty words mean. You'll need a Spanish-English dictionary.