Hi Steve and welcome to IIS. I had a look at some of the threads and they were a bit too technical for me to offer any response
However as Al said there are a lot of threads these day and it's easy for one to become overlooked. I'm sure a lot of members, myself included have had posts missed in the past and i'm sure there is nothing intended by it.
Steve, if I misread the post, and probably did, than I apoligise, if I have offended you, but it is getting far to common that some crack it because they are not instant flavor of the day.
Hi All
What is expected of a person who is not Australian and wishes for meaningful participation in this forum.
I have been a member of this forum for a few months now and have to date posted 40 messages.
I get the distinct impression that as I am not Australian I am not considered worthy of participation .
For example, I posted 4 attachments on various issues where i felt that certain detail as stated by members was incorrect. I had 35 downloads of the attachments and not one reply or comment in return. I was hoping that the time i spent collating these attachments would elicit something in return, even if it was a rebuttal.
It seems to me that to elicit a response one has to either praise someone or indicate displeasure at sarcasm or facetious attempts at humour.
I find it a real pity as started out enjoying the IIS experience but am now asking myself whether I should participate any further in what appears to be a cul de sac.
I hope this does not come across as puerile but rather a questioning of the validity of my contribution.
Kind Regards
Steve
Steve,
I AM Australian,and have been a member here, for Almost 3 years.
And,I feel I dont belong here also.
In Fact I rarely post anymore,as I feel "Out of Place"
It's NOT anyone's fault.
For Medical reasons,
I dont get out a lot,and Therefore the general members DONT get to know me Personally,and Vice/Versa
I think Knowing Someone,and being able to put a face,to a name,
Makes a big difference to your Standing,and Acceptance,not only Here,
But on any Forum.
I also think, its a case, of, it's easier to Converse,and Interact, with someone you have actually met,and Feel you Know.
I think the Above, explains,the "Shrug Shoulder Icon",I got from a "MODERATOR",
When I posted a Question/Suggestion in the Website Feedback forum Last year.
In Fact I rarely post anymore,as I feel "Out of Place"
It's NOT anyone's fault.
I also think, its a case, of, it's easier to Converse,and Interact, with someone you have actually met,and Feel you Know.
I think the Above, explains,the "Shrug Shoulder Icon",I got from a "MODERATOR",
When I posted a Question/Suggestion in the Website Feedback forum Last year.
As I said.
I have rarely posted Since.
Regards.
John
I'm sorry you feel that way John.
Mike and I really did try and help with your question but I still don't understand why you feel we we didn't try.
The "Shrug Shoulder Icon" was not all you got in my reply, I was asking you if that was what you meant.
Since Mike, Dennis and syzygy tried to answer your question further there was nothing more I could add to the thread.
I don't see how I could have helped with your inquiry.
I still have no idea what you were asking and since you said you 'got it' I assumed your question was answered.
I'm sorry you feel that way John.
Mike and I really did try and help with your question but I still don't understand why you feel we we didn't try.
The "Shrug Shoulder Icon" was not all you got in my reply, I was asking you if that was what you meant.
Since Mike, Dennis and syzygy tried to answer your question further there was nothing more I could add to the thread.
I don't see how I could have helped with your inquiry.
I still have no idea what you were asking and since you said you 'got it' I assumed your question was answered.
RB,
Thank you,for your effort in finding it.
I Mean that Sincerely.
My Last post,was a reference to "Cloudy Nights" forum,which has a provision, in EACH POST for.
1 EDIT,Obviously for the Poster.
2 REPLY,Allows a DIRECT Reply to the NAMED Poster."NO QUOTES NEEDED"
3 QUOTE,I can "Quote" the Named Poster,"If I want to"
4 Quick Reply,,Again,this allows a Quick reply to the poster "I" want to address.
THAT,was what I was trying to get across.
Regards.
John
Each post in a thread has a "Quote button" that quotes that person in your reply.
There's also a "+" button so you can quote multiple people into your single reply, just click each '+' in each post before you press "reply" and finally there's the 'green shield' button for a quick reply.
This is in addition to the "Add reply" buttons at the top and bottom of each thread page.
I hope that's what you're referring to.
I've attached a screen capture with an arrow to indicate where they are.
My apology if it's not what you're referring to and please rest assured my initial response was not in any way suppose to be derogatory or flippant in any way, but a sincere although quick reply.
Best Regards
Andrew
PS I'm sure skwinty won't mind this little side track
Andrew (RB) and Johnno, I think what Johnno wants is not to quote but a reply button which on CN I believe does two things:
1) Replaces the title of the post with "Re: title of post being replied to" and more importantly
2) Threads the posts so when the user enters "threaded" viewing mode you can see what post follows what.
IIS does not have threaded viewing mode as far as I know, so replying to individual post is no different to replying to the whole thread (with the option of adding your own title to the post). Hence there is only the one Add Reply button at the end of the thread.
I'm sure skwinty won't mind this little side track
No problem folks
Its all about "Participation in IIS"
I think the best advice that I got from this thread was to persevere.
It is frustrating when you add your 2 cents worth to a thread and your contribution is ignored and the thread continues unabated.
I think the object of IIS ,well anyway my expectation is robust debate.
If you have to ruffle feathers to stimulate the debate then ruffle on.
I think Peter Ward is a great ruffler and look at the debate he stimulates.
Kind Regards
Steve
I think Peter Ward is a great ruffler and look at the debate he stimulates.
Have to disagree there Steve,
Peter Ward doesn't set out to be controversial I reckon.
Peter seems to state the obvious/common sense with regard to gear (you get what you pay for!) and processing (blue aint red!) and it seems the fragile of ego are the ones that get ruffled! And, it kicks off from there!!!
But I think I'm being a bit of a ruffler with this one
All the best
Doug
Andrew (RB) and Johnno, I think what Johnno wants is not to quote but a reply button which on CN......
IIS does not have threaded viewing mode as far as I know, so replying to individual post is no different to replying to the whole thread.
Steve thanks for clarifying that up, once again I apologise to Johnno because I didn't understand.
You see I've been viewing CN in flat mode, didn't realise there's a 'threaded mode'.
Johhno that's why I couldn't understand the example you were referring to when you sited the CN thread.
PS: I hardly visit CN btw so not to savvy with that setup.
Steve thanks for clarifying that up, once again I apologise to Johnno because I didn't understand.
You see I've been viewing CN in flat mode, didn't realise there's a 'threaded mode'.
Johhno that's why I couldn't understand the example you were referring to when you sited the CN thread.
PS: I hardly visit CN btw so not to savvy with that setup.
Yeah, I don't go to CN all that often either and also view it in flat mode. It wasn't till Johnno's description above in this thread that I picked up what he was getting at too. I've been on other "threaded" forums (non astro).
Ditto, a pain to navigate around. Also "search" mode is very un-intuitive.
I tend to stumble over good info on CN rather than seek it out.
Search modes on IIS and SCP are much more user friendly.
Doug
IIS and yahoo formats have their respective advantages.
IIS format suits a large forum with many interests, but Yahoo forums are much more friendly and inclusive for small groups, a lot less (well, none) navigating and mouse clicking.
And.......... Peter deliberately posts to creat havoc (what, do you really think hes unaware of what he does ). Thats why we love him, would be boring with out his posts, Peter posts, thats my 1st click, every time .
You!!???!! A ruffler!!!???!!!
). Thats why we love him, would be boring with out his posts, Peter posts, thats my 1st click, every time 
