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Old 03-10-2007, 10:04 AM
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The ST4000xcmi coupled to the FS-102 would be a good combination John. 63.8 arcmin squared fov @ 1.87 arcsec pixels would frame many objects extremely well.

I don't know how well these one shot colour camera hold their value. I've seen some secondhand YankeeRobotics cameras on Astromart go extremely cheap considering they "buy new price". I guess there is a high churn for the one shot colour camera. As astro-imagers gain experience, they want to move up ("graduate") to something that offers the flexibility and performance and of a mono chip. Expected delivery of the SBIG ST4000xcmi is flagged for Oct.'07. I feel certain we'll see some seconds on the market by mid next year.

I see your point Fred. IMHO, the discussion of guiding and filters is over-rated. Its really not a big issue with adequate knowledge and acquisition planning.

The price vs. performance is always an argumentative point.
A user supplied 350D costs ~A$1,300 to get modified for cooling (based on prices obtained at http://www.centralds.net/en/price.htm).
The 350D when it originally came out to by new was ~A$1,400. You could possibly do the cooling mod yourself, but looks rather "intense" - http://www.centralds.net/en/process1.htm. (Is the cooling active and controlled i.e with a set temp point for consistency)??
Then, to make your 350D Ha sensitive by replacing the filter - it will set you back another $450 - http://khromagery.com.au/ir_conversions.html. Again you could do this yourself if keen - http://www.astrosurf.com/~buil/350d/350d.htm

So you tally ~A$3,150 for a decked out 8mp, Ha sensitive, cooled DSLR.
Regardless, the cost is certainly under the asking price for the ST4000xmci @ A$4,800. However, its the total package we need to consider. Internal guiding is a excellent advantage and a clean solution. No off axis guiders or guidescopes required. If we add guidescope+rings and dedicated guide camera to the equation, it may begin to balance $. We must also consider sensitivity/well depth, gain and read-out noise into the formula. These values are never easy to get a quantitive answer on with CMOS chips. The CCD will also provide greater dynamic range 16-bit vs. 12-bit for the DSLR. The 350D has 8mp vs 4mp for the ST4000. 350D has 6.4um pixels compared to 7.4um for the ST4000.

Tough call to make.
Jase the filter is part of the package in the modding of the camera - see his filter specs and results on yun's website. it is very Ha sensitive!! so you dont need to get another filter job done saving you the $450 for David Burren's modification. and it is sealed and moisture proof - he has a heated element to dispell the dew formed by cooling
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