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Old 02-09-2007, 09:01 AM
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What I find curious about light is that it can "live" so long...ltes face it there is some very old light out there..coming in.

I mean how can the "energy" last so long...think of the light in the Hubble Deep Sky captures (and process) it has ben travelling for billions of years but still can register on the chip.

I came up with a concept similar to the quantum tunneling concept (proof at astronomydaily in a thread about you know what) and it was thinkimg about that concept I realised no matter how fast you turn up the speed of anything you will not pass the speed of instant... take the speed of light to the power of one million..you get a big number and it will be very very fast but still it will not be instant.

I think these folk must get so involved with the sums they overlook such a simple premise.

If C were a billion x a billion par secs per milli second this is still slower than instant.... and even at this extreme speed you will find it still takes time to get to one end of the Universe to the other.

Quantum tunneling may provide a speed close to instant and there for faster than light but we still are only working under or at the instant barrier.

I feel the extrapolation of many of the available sums take some into fantacy land... in many areas.

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Old 02-09-2007, 09:05 AM
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AND to state the obvious that so many must fail to consider in these matters...

There can be no speed faster than instant therefor the conditions for pre arrival do not exist.

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Old 02-09-2007, 05:28 PM
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AND to state the obvious that so many must fail to consider in these matters...

There can be no speed faster than instant therefor the conditions for pre arrival do not exist.

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That may be true for you Alex, but some of us do arrive before we leave: better known as tripping over our own feet!
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Old 02-09-2007, 09:59 PM
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At last an observation in support and no doubt a situation that has probably been observed by many different observers in many different observatories.
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Old 02-09-2007, 11:50 PM
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Hello JohnH,
An interesting article. If I remember my university lecturer correctly, the group velocity can exceed the speed of light but this is only artificial as the phase velocity is less than it. Maybe I got that around the wrong way, but I'm trying to remember back 29 years ago.

Anyway, I never really believed this fact about Physics and the speed of light.Doesn't everybody know that Captain James T Kirk has been zooming all over the universe at warp speeds since the 1960's.

No, seriously, there are many things that we all know little about in the universe. I'm certain that this is one of them. Many events in life would change if this were so, fundamentally, that people in inertial frames of reference could tell if they were moving without looking outside of the reference frame. For instance, their reflection in a mirror could disappear. These are things that fundamentally cannot occur, else the universe would appear very different to us. Anyway, all scientific research needs to be evaluated and checked by others. I'm prepared to keep an open mind on the subject and await any developments with interest. Other scientists should be able to replicate the results if the data is valid. I find it amazing to grasp how these scientists can measure a time interval this small over a distance of 3ft. This equates to being able to measure times as small as 3 x 10(power)-7 seconds. Till I have verification from other scientists, I'll save my faster than the speed of light thoughts for science fiction.
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Old 03-09-2007, 09:18 AM
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I sortta got carried away reading about light last night and something I came across surprised me... I should have stayed with this aspect but I will follow it up... anyways I read that a scientist had slowed light to some 57 miles per second..or at least it was in that unbelievable region.

If this is so it means that maybe in space cool regions will act as a lens..

But if this is truth it would make one wonder the variations in C in space available in space..what a confusing mix
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