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Old 16-07-2007, 11:06 AM
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I like that idea!!!
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Old 16-07-2007, 11:24 AM
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All my data cables I keep rolled up together. There's 5 that go from scope to car/PC. I roll them up and put them in one big ziplock style clear bag. That's quite neat.

When set up, I loop them on the scope's tripod such that if I snag them when walking around it doesn't rip them out of the control pad etc, i know the GM-8's tripod is strong enough to not budget in such a scenario.

I have them tied together with twist ties every metre or 2.

I am going to very shortly change from this though. I realised a while ago I can do away with all them and just have 1 USB from car to scope, with a hub at the scope. I can plug the various USB devices in to that at the scope, including RS232 <--> USB converters. That will mean significantly less cables, as the ones at the scope will be short. Currently I use 5m USB extension cables and RS232 cables between scope and car.

Cables are a bit of a nightmare sometimes. In the observatory I have worse problems and am trying to work out ducting to have 2 ducts - one for power and one for data, going around the particularly bad parts of the wall where there's 21 power plugs and countless data cables.

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Old 16-07-2007, 11:28 AM
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How about corrugated electrical conduit, comes in a slit or non-slit version from memory. It's basically a flexable hollow tube and you can feed all your cables into and hence run a single from scope to laptop. Then just coil it up at the end of the session.
I don't think I'd use this because lots of dirt (sand and stuff) would get stuck in the grooves. I usually observe on paddocks and the like out in the country, and the sandy, grassy dirt combined with dew means I appreciate having smooth cables I can just hold a rag around while I coil them up.

A similar alternative might be 1/2" black poly retic trickle pipe, and manually cut a slit down the side yourself. That is smooth so could easily be wiped as rolling it up. But, it wouldn't coil as tight, probably about 1 - 1.5 foot diameter roll in the end.

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Old 16-07-2007, 11:33 AM
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The worst part about tying all the cables together it the weight from the cables on the plugs and sockets.....
I had a thoughtie about a free standing board/tower for my set-up which i can either fix some quick release white plastic clips to hold the cables between the telescope and the puter table, it would have to have a very sturdy base though, or could even be a pole driven into the ground at a convenient location between scope and table, it can allow the weight to be minimised and "tidy" at the same time....
Just a thought.....
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Old 16-07-2007, 11:39 AM
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Another issue is that you may have a number of different cameras that you use, depending on celestial target. In my case:
  • DMK with a single Firewire Cable.
  • ST7E with a very stiff power cable, stiff 25 way Parallel cable and an RS232 Auto guiding cable.
  • Orion Deep Space Star Shooter with a USB2 cable and a Power cable.
  • Pentax *ist DS with a USB2 cable and a Power cable.
Whilst I do not use these all together, I find it effective to keep the cables coiled and attached to the docking station and power board in the hutch, so that I can relatively easily deploy the required cables depending on which camera I will be using. This means that it is not feasible for me to run the various cables in some conduit or cable tidy.

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Old 16-07-2007, 02:04 PM
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manage cables.... I..... I dont
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Old 16-07-2007, 02:21 PM
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Can't say mine are "managed" either - the best I can do is a usb hub on the mount - then I leave the cables/usb/serial converter etc looped/velcreod on the mount for storage.

I have one cable to the mount - usb to the hub, but then there is ethernet and phone type cable to the controller and power for the Canon 20d and Mount.

I use lots of velcro and cable ties. It does not look pretty. I did try conduit but gave up on it as I found my configurations varied to much - ie piggyback, prime through the VC200L and prime through the wo66 required different cable lengths.
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Old 16-07-2007, 02:27 PM
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found my configurations varied to much - ie piggyback, prime through the VC200L and prime through the wo66 required different cable lengths.
That is exactly what I'm finding. Depending on what the conditions are like and what I feel like imaging on any given night, keeping things sorted can be a bit of a head ache.

For storage of cables I'm thinking along the lines of a length of solid material/leather and stitch pockets to it. Then all the looped and tied cables can go into their own labelled pocket. I can then just unfold roll it and hang it somewhere convenient. I may even do something similar for the myriad of T/C/CS/SCT/webcam adapters one collects over time. But then that is another issue altogether.
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Old 16-07-2007, 11:37 PM
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Birds nest pure and simple. The sort where you trip up and curse the entire earth. Only great images from such chaos.

When I pack them up I put them together with the items they are used with. Like the filter wheel cables go with that.
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Old 17-07-2007, 07:55 AM
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Well, it has started. I lashed out and bought a labeller the other day. Boy that thing is addictive.
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Old 17-07-2007, 08:07 AM
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I recently purchased a set of 3 lidded plastic boxes with handles. Only $14.95 for the lot.
Now each camera and its associated cables, powersupplies and lenses are self contained and protected against knocks and bumps. Grab and go.
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Old 18-07-2007, 06:40 AM
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As an Astro Imager I have had plenty of cable fights. These days my cables are much better behaved. See before and after pictures. Also I can't leave one behind which was always a risk in the old days. The trick is also to leave many portions uncovered by the tubing, this makes the loom quite flexible.
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Old 18-07-2007, 07:28 AM
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A neat and tidy cabling loom Monte - an even nicer set up!

Cheers

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Old 18-07-2007, 07:53 AM
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Ditto to Dennis, very neat.

Maybe I should start a thread to support this one, but make it "The tidiest astroimaging setup - submit a photo"
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Old 24-07-2007, 07:31 PM
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How do you manage your cables?
in my case ...poorly :-)

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Old 24-07-2007, 08:16 PM
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them cable trunks look like they do a great job , maybee i should invest soon as i can see an accident happening
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Old 24-07-2007, 08:44 PM
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Here is a close up of it showing the ice in the morning at Ilford (ASNSW) at the last new moon weekend. Damn cold.
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Old 25-07-2007, 07:02 PM
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wow that looks quite cold
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Old 26-07-2007, 07:40 AM
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Brrrr - I should be careful what I wish for. Only thre month before I was thinking we hadn't had a cold winter for a long time.

On the subject of cables I forgot to mention Bunnings sell the ratchet clips for cables. You can see one in the background of the icy photo. They are really cheap and come in a few sizes. They can bunch cables quickly and effectively.
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Old 26-07-2007, 09:40 PM
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never heard of bunnings myself , but i think i will be taking atrip to maplins in an hour to get these cable tidys purchased while the weather is bad , these clouds and rain is driving me insane
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