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Old 11-08-2021, 10:55 AM
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Eukaryotic organisms?
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Old 11-08-2021, 11:11 AM
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if you are a humanitarian it's the 'big bang', if you are a narcissist it's your own birth.
Yes but the Big Bang is only a theory ...sorry I could not help it...and of course... Evolution of species ..it is only a theory ... Mmmm so these "only a theory" people what is their authority that overules scientific theory...has it been peer reviewed are their predictions testable?

OK the Big Bang..it "only" deals with the evolution of the universe from a hot dense state ..no big deal..its not as though it suggests that the universe came from nothing or something that could be seized upon to suggest any creation event...if you look at it there is nothing to suggest a beginning at all..such is speculative and unsupported...did not do much at all really.

I suppose the other big event must be the appearance of life...the appearance of RNA or some protein or acid etc...probably the motor protein with its little molecular feet walking along as if it were a little person dragging a bag of energy...they are so neat.

https://youtu.be/tMKlPDBRJ1E
Only five minutes but what an information packed five minutes...I just love their little feet.

I dont know when they walked in...some of the videos for them are fascinating.
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Old 11-08-2021, 02:30 PM
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Maybe the event is yet to happen? When the Sun eventually has had enough and cooks us all as it heads into Red Giant Phase.
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Old 11-08-2021, 03:26 PM
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I do apologise missed seeing your post, I expect it went up while I was typing a reply and comments to Zuts.
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Old 11-08-2021, 03:46 PM
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Oh, it starts with 'M'?


Then I guess the answer of course is 'Me' :-D


If you want to get philosophical for a second, the only thing I *can know for sure exists, is my own mind. There is even a theory going round the traps that reality is almost certainly a simulation (I know, right? But it comes from reputable sources, not crackpots, even though it *sounds bonkers). https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-a-simulation/



So in order to perceive the universe at all, *I need to exist, and the rest of the universe may or may not. Y'all might be simulations for all I know. I'm sure you'd argue the same about me, but I'm sure you're just programmed to say that.


<tongue firmly in cheek>


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Old 11-08-2021, 03:49 PM
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I do apologise missed seeing your post, I expect it went up while I was typing a reply and comments to Zuts.
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Or I didn't read properly before replying. That has been known to happen from time to time too :-)
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Old 11-08-2021, 04:10 PM
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Maybe the event is yet to happen? When the Sun eventually has had enough and cooks us all as it heads into Red Giant Phase.
Well maybe it is yet to come and certainly indulging speculation as to what the future may hold is rather enjoyable.

I speculate that unfortunately that humans will like so many other species be casualties of some mass extinction event. There have been say five mass extinctions of decent magnitude wherein some 90 % of species have been wiped out and maybe 20 other extinction events that have taken out species but left .any others.

Really there can be no question that is the most likely future we can expect and one wonders that being the only species to have existed that if informed can totally comprehend the inevitable then why we are not totally focused upon placing a few bets on at least the Moon and Mars...it is rather negligent in looking after humans of the future.

Lets face it if we were to direct attention away from wasting resourses on industries devoted to unestablished beliefs that promote superstition and stop the waste of playing games and were organised into a global unit to achieve a goal of creating environments on the Moon and Mars it would take no time at all.

Go to the Moon and Mars and create under ground environments...Cant be difficult really.

Then if the Earth goes into 100 years of volcanic eruption we have somewhere...or a space rock drops in...no one cares and so humans can only join the list of once most successful species that disappeared for ever.

I can see such a spread of humans and then there is the next solar system...too far away..well no the limitation is the lack of imagination to plan trips that may take more than one generation to reach another planet in another solar system. We have the resourses they just need reallocation.

Lets be serious about the life after death mentality, drop it and work on simply extending the life of a human to the mythical ages commonly referred to in some of our ancient stories. Cant be done..why not.. it is doable.

Lets make the next most important thing humans living happily under the surface of our Moon and neighbour Mars sending vessels to our next colony.

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Old 11-08-2021, 05:01 PM
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The most important event in our history... ...an intriguing question asked on an astronomy forum... ...that would have to be the invention of a telescope!
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Old 11-08-2021, 05:26 PM
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Event in history

When our big toe enabled us to walk upright which led to the development of fine motor skills and ultimately our brain. Every thing we experience through our senses is created in our brain. The whole universe only exists in our brain, ie is the moon still there when we are not looking? The entire universe is (may be) just a collection of atoms with a lot of space in between and within atoms.
I would say biocentrism because of our big toe is the most important bit, without us and our brain the universe does not exist as we know it.

NB History by definition is anything recorded in writing. So it does exclude prehistory and therefore the question can only be considered since writing began.

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Old 11-08-2021, 10:05 PM
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When our big toe enabled us to walk upright which led to the development of fine motor skills and ultimately our brain. Every thing we experience through our senses is created in our brain. The whole universe only exists in our brain, ie is the moon still there when we are not looking? The entire universe is (may be) just a collection of atoms with a lot of space in between and within atoms.
I would say biocentrism because of our big toe is the most important bit, without us and our brain the universe does not exist as we know it.

NB History by definition is anything recorded in writing. So it does exclude prehistory and therefore the question can only be considered since writing began.

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Sir there can be no argument that can stand against your logical and ordered assessment of the matter such that I have taken time to attempt to rise to a new level of enquiry and having spent some time in deeper contemplation do find that the most important event in our history can only be the creation of Iceinspace and would respectfully assume that all will happily agree with my finding as there can be no other conclusion notwithstanding the immense importance of significant role played by the big toe or other suggested inputs covered herein.

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Old 12-08-2021, 12:14 AM
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When Mr Prokaryote met Mrs Eukaryote!
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Old 12-08-2021, 12:16 AM
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If you are talking about a Human History, then, hard to beat that one. Divine intervention
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Old 12-08-2021, 10:05 AM
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Old 12-08-2021, 10:46 AM
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The invention of the “Wheel”
Without the wheel we wouldn’t be here today
It drives everything thing we do to exist as a modern human beings in the 21st century and beyond into the future
I’m certain in ancient times humans couldn’t have survived with fast growing populations without the humble “wheel”. The wheel brought Sustainability
It also allowed us to observe and image the Universe like never before from our backyards
I’m surprised no one hasn’t mentioned it yet ?
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Old 12-08-2021, 11:07 AM
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I guess one could also make the case for the period of Baryogenesis after the Big Bang (which somehow managed to violate the conservation of baryon number), and lead to there being more matter than anti-matter in the universe. In turn, that enabled atoms and molecules to form.


Either that, or the invention of Sticky Date Pudding. They're hard to split.


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Old 12-08-2021, 01:33 PM
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Im sure this is the most importand for most of us and worldwide.....The other day when I successfully polar aligned with no star trails.

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Old 12-08-2021, 03:06 PM
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No1. I'd go for the Battle of Manzikert in 1071.
If the Byzantines hadn't foolishly lost that one, we'd still have the Roman Empire around today.

No. 2 Invention of transistors in 1950s.
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Old 12-08-2021, 03:11 PM
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When the first caveman discovered that the haunch of dinosoar he accidentally dropped in the coals of a tree struck by lightning wasn’t too bad, despite the charcoal and burnt fingers.
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Old 12-08-2021, 04:06 PM
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I fail to see the connection between the battle of Manzikert and the Roman
Empire, as the Roman Empire ceased to exist almost 600yrs before that
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Old 12-08-2021, 04:29 PM
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Which ever date you decide the Romans disappeared one could say they live on even today because of the Roman Catholic Church...we tend to think of only the Western Empire falling when in fact the Eastern Empire continued for a very long time after the West was gone and forgotten.
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