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Old 24-12-2020, 01:09 PM
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I struggle with somone asking for offers , looking up a past sale seems to work as a guide but would much prefer a stated price .
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Old 24-12-2020, 02:16 PM
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Well Nikolas, I have conducted 6,817 buying and selling transactions
through Paypal,[all kinds of things, astro gear, stamps, general purchases],
and never a problem.
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Old 24-12-2020, 02:20 PM
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If you bought new stuff and now want to flog it it is classed as secondhand after you have used it regardless of time past.

I sold my traveling rig some time ago to down grade to what i have mow.

The Rig all up cost about $200.000 that is everything from the 5th Wheeler to the Iveco pulling it and accessories.

I sold the whole rig for $113,000 after 5 years, and was then asked by friends how much did you lose on the deal.

I said I didn't lose anything on the deal, they looked at me stupid, and I said I had 5 years of good service out of the Rig, traveled all over Australia covering over 70,000 kilometers, saw the most beautiful things the country had to offer and did the big lap twice, and had a great 5 years doing it, that cost me about $90,000 so i am even.

They didn't quite know how to answer that.

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Old 24-12-2020, 02:50 PM
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Well Nikolas, I have conducted 6,817 buying and selling transactions
through Paypal,[all kinds of things, astro gear, stamps, general purchases],
and never a problem.
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Fair enough but for those of us who don't trust paypal being burnt before it's a different experience. I personally won't do paypal to buy or sell.
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Old 24-12-2020, 02:59 PM
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If you bought new stuff and now want to flog it it is classed as secondhand after you have used it regardless of time past.

I sold my traveling rig some time ago to down grade to what i have mow.

The Rig all up cost about $200.000 that is everything from the 5th Wheeler to the Iveco pulling it and accessories.

I sold the whole rig for $113,000 after 5 years, and was then asked by friends how much did you lose on the deal.

I said I didn't lose anything on the deal, they looked at me stupid, and I said I had 5 years of good service out of the Rig, traveled all over Australia covering over 70,000 kilometers, saw the most beautiful things the country had to offer and did the big lap twice, and had a great 5 years doing it, that cost me about $90,000 so i am even.

They didn't quite know how to answer that.

Leon
You are a good man Leon and moreover reasonable.

I find these people who buy something and use it, then ask a price that is around retail are really looking to the world to pay their way...I would die before I did business with such folk...I am not paying your way .....if you have used it and got value it seems to me just wrong to expect someone else to pay a retail price or new it irrespective of the supply and demand situation. It's greedy and greed is wrong.

Me I won't sell anything..if I have used it and had my enjoyment I am happy to give it away to someone who is decent and deserves a help up the ladder...and it comes back in my opinion...I receive so many gifts...this year..a caravan, various building materials, a microscope thank you Thomas, actually two microscope, ...lots more stuff than I can remember...now I know this guy and he is mean and no one has ever given him a thing...I can tell he is so jealous he does not like me I know it but then he does not like most folk..I bet he does not like himself ...like when I got the van he just kept saying but why did they give it to you over and over...I gave away last year a 150 ed refractor on a goto equatorial mount with all sorts of accessories to a guy I met in a shop..a salesman...only knew him like 45 minutes and gave him the scope...and it seems anything I want terms up more often as a gift...I am not rich in one sense but very rich in another sense.

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Old 25-12-2020, 05:18 PM
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The following drive me mental concerning for sale ads:

-No pics
-No price
-Stock pics from a retailer's/manufacturer's website
-"Please make an offer"
-Rudimentary 1-liner description with preschool-level of grammar and punctuation


If you want to catch the fish, bait the freaking hook please.
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Old 25-12-2020, 06:18 PM
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The following drive me mental concerning for sale ads:

-No pics
-No price
-Stock pics from a retailer's/manufacturer's website
-"Please make an offer"
-Rudimentary 1-liner description with preschool-level of grammar and punctuation


If you want to catch the fish, bait the freaking hook please.
I absolutely agree...no price but they will know immediately an offer they won't accept...no pictures in the his day and age amounts to rudness.

Anyways the tide will turn as a buyers market is around the corner as anyone should realise so much economic activity is a direct result of virus stimulus money..I went for a car port...sorry booked until May or June and when the quote arrived it was double a figure I consider over the top.

What they dont realise is come next July folk will have got what they want and times will become rather lean..same at the guitar shop ..all the cheap units sold..why ..covid money I as told.

Thinking it through I think we will see things slow right up..heck the cut in trade with China is monumental..its just not shortning supply and the floods in China are probably the big problem if one is realistic..but look at diminishing trade is doing...more and more folk seeing their incomes disappear..that effects everything in time. I mean look at lobsters... down from $100 to $30..as cash tightens and it means private sellers will find a low price may not see a sale.

The good thing at the moment is the very low cost of credit ... So if you find your income is secure after the dust settles just borrow and buy what you want..heck the repayments on a new astro rig will be less than what most folk spend on takeaway coffee...but I expect if you wait it will become a buyers market...and supply will sort itself out as new ways of marketing and supply from China come into being...
If you are a buyer be patient. If a vendor be quick.
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