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Old 22-11-2018, 09:21 PM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K7q20VzwVs
There are similar recordings of people from the middle east moving large stones with few people and little work just using basic tools , maybe a couple hundred stone masons were just well paid and knew exactly what they were doing ?,, dosnt fit with all the mythical stuff but maybe all through time engineers are just able to get **** done.
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Old 23-11-2018, 08:21 AM
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Thanks for that Graham.
I wonder did the aliens do it that way☺
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Old 23-11-2018, 09:09 AM
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Yes. It has been accepted by mainstream archeologists, that slaves did not build the pyramids. For a start, Ancient Egypt was not a slave-state like Greece or Rome. Most slaves in the ancient world were acquired as a result of war, and for most of its life Ancient Egypt was fairly pacific. Yes, the Pharaohs did wage war, but mostly in response to incursions made by (usually) culturally less advanced peoples. Ancient Egypt was almost never a militarily aggressive state like those mentioned above.
Back in the early 90s I went there. The guide was very insistent that the"pyramids were not built by slaves, positively proven". And I didn't believe him!!! They were just so massive- I couldn't. Well there you go
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Old 23-11-2018, 11:13 AM
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The great pyramid is an 8 sided pyramid.
I bet folk think you are joking.

But the effect is very noticable in certain light.

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Old 25-11-2018, 02:29 PM
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Alex,

My take on it is this;

The pyramids were built to direct your attention to the geometry and motion of the objects in the sky.

They were built in such a manner that they would outlast the civilisation or culture that built them.

The extent of the weathering of the Sphinx is not consistent with an arid climate, so it follows that it was already an old ruin at the end of the last ice age, 12,000 years ago which is basically when the rain stopped falling there in any significant quantity. I guess you could say that dynastic Egypt inherited a large portion of the artefacts in the Nile basin from a much older civilisation which collapsed many thousands of year prior to their epoch.

Some of the correlations with (things) astronomical are well documented (such as alignment to true North, alignment to Sirius et al).
Others, less so.

For example:
The length of the base is 365.262 cubits.
The keen eyed observer will note that this is the length of a year accurate to a minute or so!

The angle of the sides is not arbitrary.
If you call the length of the sides (at the base) 2 units, the distance from the middle of any side (at the base) to the apex is 1.61803 units.. which of course is Phi, the golden ratio.
If the pyramids were hollow and you were able to hang a rope from the apex to the desert floor below, then used that rope as a radius to draw a circle in the sand, that circle would have the same circumference as the perimeter of the entire pyramid... ergo) the pyramids use phi to define Pi !

fwiw) the angle of the sides of the pyramid (a bit over 51 degrees) is approximately the latitude of Stonehenge, where the difference between the positions of the summer and winter solstice sunrise defines a perfect right angle.

Also.... and the following bit is absolutely not consistent with our understanding of ancient history... so put it down to extraordinary coincidence if you will...
The ratio of the pyramid base length to its height is the same as the ratio of Earth's diameter to its polar radius + lunar polar radius to a high degree of accuracy.

As extraordinary as that may seem, there is a deeper factoid in there to ponder. The relative size of Earth and its moon could be said to be an abstract expression of the number Pi!
You can put that down to luck or you could speculate as to whether the Solar system was built by an Engineer with something of a sense of humour.

Whatever the case, I don't think the concept of a 'great architect in the sky' is inconsistent with what we know about pre-dynastic belief systems.

I don't think it is necessary to have a dog in the race either way to acknowledge that whoever built the pyramids was able to elicit a degree of motivation and commitment from the people who made up their society that would be impossible to replicate today short of the clouds parting, and Angels on fiery chariots delivered the CAD files directly to every person on the planet.

Point being, they thought it was important enough to devote every spare ounce of material and effort in order to pull it off. There must have been a compelling argument on the table.

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My take on it is this;

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That was a remarkably good take Clive
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Hi Clive
Yes so many interesting aspects.
Great post.
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Old 25-11-2018, 04:59 PM
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Another interesting point about the Sphinx is that the head is way too small for the body on which it sits, and further, the head is far better preserved than the body. This leads to the conclusion that original head was re-carved at some point in the remote past....perhaps into the likeness of an early Pharaoh. What the head was originally, can only be guessed at.
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Old 25-11-2018, 05:07 PM
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You are welcome.



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btw) There is a lot more to the subject, and Stonehenge perhaps deserves a couple of chapters on its own.

A truly remarkable piece of Engineering, not so much from a physical construction perspective but from the profound astronomical knowledge encoded within it. I struggle to reconcile that with a neolithic culture.

History, imho, is way more interesting than any fiction I have come across.

btw) I wouldn't bother reading Graham Hancock, Vondaniken, etc... snake oil salesmen is the most charitable term I could use.
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I read it all.
Rather watch the vids...even when they really go off the rails.

Listen to the dull and the ignorant for they to have their story..who said that before me.

Well so far I have it all worked out☺
The stories of Atlantis and the aliens is all true☺.


I can understand ancient folk being good with astronomy...no tv...and from personal experience it is amazing what you can do with a stick, shadows and a string with a rock when alone in the bush...for only a short time compated to the ancients.


The key is not to get carried away.

Was there an Atlantis...well I dont know and will never know so why push a view.

The Yonger Dryas ...sure sounds good but even with a mountain of evidence we can only guess.

Big bang gets the same from me...
Sounds good but I really dont know.
Heck we dont even know what we dont know that we dont know.

Dont know has a timeless strength.

So many things I deal with that way...I dont know allows me to always be right☺.
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You’ll be pleased to know the documentary “Stargate” is on the telly, now.

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You’ll be pleased to know the documentary “Stargate” is on the telly, now.
My daughter has the whole set on DVD ...history and science in one place☺
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