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Old 07-06-2018, 06:58 PM
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Not there for quite some time. Most useless baseless crap in ages. I could care less what some moron ate for lunch or dinner.
Same. I got rid of nearly all social media a few years back (Facebook 6 or so years ago, twitter/instagram/tumblr 3 years ago, reddit a few days ago).

Sick of dealing with morons.

Pretty sure that Facebook sends all your data to the C of I of A too.
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Old 07-06-2018, 06:58 PM
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Logan, you are excused as YOU ARE UNDER 25YO!!

I use it lots, mainly for the useful groups and cat videos. And of course it's now essential for marketing any business like our farm and astro accommodation.

I generally refer to it as Faeces Book, or my fave, The Book of Faces.


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I use it - mostly for the extremely useful ASV groups and Messenger! Never post anything there except astrophotography.
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Old 07-06-2018, 07:01 PM
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pffft so much paranoia her and really labelling those who use it as wankers?
Use an adblocker, Use a VPN if you need to, Set your privacy to max and friends only, BLOCK those you suspect are suss, Only share what is lighthearted or peruse pages that interest you.
I use it to keep in touch with relos the other side of the world and also to organise social functions with my friendship group.
If you are stupid enough to have your guard down because you are careless then it's your own stupid fault. In other words get off your high horses those of you who don't use the platform and know only what they read in the alarmist media. (wankers? Seriously?)
I really must disagree with this - Facebook has knowingly abused privacy laws, is a host for fraudulent setups and viruses. Facebook is responsible for any content on their site.

They auto block innocent images of mums with their children, but allow private groups like racial hate groups, pro women groups, pro men groups etc. Double standards and hypocrisy abounds.

Bloody thing should be bloody well banned.

Wanna keep in touch with family on the other side of the world? Send them an email or write them a letter or call them.
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Old 07-06-2018, 08:39 PM
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My wife works cyber security and digital conversion - she won't go near Facebook, and has all the laptop cameras covered. If we need to discuss anything, we leave the phones at home and go for a walk.
Far out man - what do you think you two could possibly have to say that would be of interest to anyone in the hacking field?
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Old 07-06-2018, 08:40 PM
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I use FB to keep in touch with ex-RAAFies along with keeping tabs with some Astronomy groups...I don't consider myself to be a wanker and wannabe.
Here here Hans. Some dinosaurs in this thread for sure
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Old 07-06-2018, 08:58 PM
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Was only ever a platform for wankers and wannabes... Virus central
What a lot of Crap.
You should really think about what you say.
There are a lot of ice in space people on there,plus scientists and other very clever people,plus of course ordinary people that like to communicate with others.
I suggest you go ahead and Call Mike Sidonio a wanker and wannabe as he is on there plus the principal investigator for the New Horizons mission to Pluto and the outer solar system plus many more people that I would look upto above you.
So no it is not a platform for wankers and wannabe's,it is a communications platform to be used with the caution that it requires
That you don't use it is your prerogative,but don't condemn everyone else who does.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:06 PM
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Bloody thing should be bloody well banned.
Head off to Russia or China if you want things banned.
This is a free country and you're at will not to use face book,
Nobody is forcing anyone to use it.
There is enough information out there for people to be careful as to what they do on face book.

Wanna keep in touch with family on the other side of the world? Send them an email or write them a letter or call them.
People do all three and still get pleasure out of using face book and all the other social media outlets.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:08 PM
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Never even considered using it Andrew, or any other social media for that matter.

Opp's IIS is social media, never thought of that, so i am guilty after all

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Old 07-06-2018, 09:16 PM
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Gotta say i am stunned to see the latest revelations re them flogging all your data ( and your linked friends ) to Chinese manufacturers????
After all the earlier revelations of who they gave your data to, i wonder whats next.

Starting to wonder if Suckerberg is actually worse than the banks or not???


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Another Phishing expedition Andrew ?
Put the crap out there and watch the mud flow.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:17 PM
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:19 PM
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I use it to keep in touch with old friends , and a few groups.




I moved on from my hometown very early on from leaving school and lost touch almost everyone I knew , a few chance friend requests slowly steamrolled into many over the years (another today to) I meet up with a whole bunch of people every year from school and the old hood and by chance bumped into one of my oldest friends who dosn't do FB at all just happened to drink were we all met up once . For me the bigger picture has been pretty positive as I'm sure it has been for many others .
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:25 PM
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Far out man - what do you think you two could possibly have to say that would be of interest to anyone in the hacking field?
Suckerberg covers his laptop camera and mic. ... I was doing it a long time before this tidbit came out...

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...phone-facebook

There are so many hacks out there that allow both to be turned on remotely, without alerting you... Got a laptop in your bedroom? Lots of people have been victims of extortion based on this little trick.

So why have you got your heads in the sand?
Why are you so casual about being mined?
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:29 PM
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What a lot of Crap.
You should really think about what you say.
There are a lot of ice in space people on there,plus scientists and other very clever people,plus of course ordinary people that like to communicate with others.
I suggest you go ahead and Call Mike Sidonio a wanker and wannabe as he is on there plus the principal investigator for the New Horizons mission to Pluto and the outer solar system plus many more people that I would look upto above you.
So no it is not a platform for wankers and wannabe's,it is a communications platform to be used with the caution that it requires
That you don't use it is your prerogative,but don't condemn everyone else who does.
... and if you take a closer look Ron, I added a qualifier to that statement. I corrected to to say the vast majority... or words to that effect.

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Old 07-06-2018, 09:51 PM
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... and if you take a closer look Ron, I added a qualifier to that statement. I corrected to to say the vast majority... or words to that effect.

You're still WRONG the vast majority are ordinary people with no axe to grind,
are reasonable intelligent and use the media sensibly.
For a person who doesn't use it you seem to think you know quite a bit about it which I think you don't.
What you're saying is that well over 1.5 Billion people are wankers and wannabe's,I think those people would not take too kindly to your description of them,I know I don't as you have probably gathered by now.
PS you should add your qualifier to your original statement.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:57 PM
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Yep, wankers, absolutely. The VAST majority of users are, "look at me, look at me exhibitionists..., or worse." You connect to that garbage system and you are being mined, whether you think so or not. Your so called privacy settings mean nothing to suckerberg, he's selling your data and does not give a rats bum about your privacy...
So what data would that be and why would I be concerned?
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:58 PM
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Far out man - what do you think you two could possibly have to say that would be of interest to anyone in the hacking field?
And who do you think said hacker might just work for? Will they classify him/her as an Ethical Hacker?

You will be VERY surprised, or extremely naive. Or both.

And it's not even usually a hacker. Do some background reading on NSA infiltration and exploitation of known loopholes and backdoors...Have a read of what Snowden leaked.

Or for basics, just read and learn the ASD Essential 8. That's the mere BASIC level for ANY Australian government system.

Then maybe rethink the world around you.
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Old 07-06-2018, 09:59 PM
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The first question asked of our IPT (computer class) in Senior High, by the teacher: "What is the MOST valuable commodity on Earth?"


Hand up, I replied "Knowledge/information". The teacher (top bloke), scowled at me, and said "absolutely... but I was hoping the class would take a little longer to come to this answer".


Since Facebook started, it's IPO, and the following investment in datacentre hardware (some amazing custom stuff, mind you), the intention of the enterprise was obvious. In a vacuum of relevant policy and specific laws, lay great opportunities for those at the pointy end of the free market.


As such, I've never touched facebook. As said in this thread, it's one's right to use/not use it. Every venture as an individual has reward and risk. The only single thing I personally hope, is that Facebook and the like remain a voluntary/"opt in" affair.


Poeple here are smart, they have their own risk/reward equation going. Some in the world are not so smart, and as such, would probably remain personally unnaffected by the most heinous of data breaches anyway.


I've had people literally laugh at me for NOT using facebook. I stood no chance in explaining my reasons, and the relevance of these reasons to themselves also. So, I just told 'em, "I don't have enough time to pay attention to a handful of real friends, how could I handle 300 fake ones?"



So, each to their own... mostly. The only time I've put my foot down, was when my sister shared pictures of our 1st kid with hundreds of people I didn't know (and she barely knew either).


Sorry Pop - happy to send you some popcorn, but I doubt anything I've said above really adds to "the show"
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:05 PM
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What you're saying is that well over 1.5 Billion people are wankers and wannabe's

Whilst in no way contradicting any of your other points, I'm curious about this "1.5 billion" number. Most people I know have more than 1 account. Facebook have their intentions of 1 account -1 entitity, but I see the opposite in practice. Hell, my Wife had 6 accounts at one stage. Yes, we had words...



Henceforth, I call it "Stalkbook".
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:26 PM
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Whilst in no way contradicting any of your other points, I'm curious about this "1.5 billion" number. Most people I know have more than 1 account. Facebook have their intentions of 1 account -1 entitity, but I see the opposite in practice. Hell, my Wife had 6 accounts at one stage. Yes, we had words...



Henceforth, I call it "Stalkbook".
Semantics,simple enough to say there are a hell of a lot including yourself that are Not wankers and wannabe's.
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Old 07-06-2018, 10:34 PM
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Semantics,simple enough to say there are a hell of a lot including yourself that are Not wankers and wannabe's.

I appreciate your sentiment Ron, but I assure you, I am indeed a certified* wanker. I still won't use facebook however, unless they force me at gunpoint...


*Just ask my Wife, Dad, and various people who roll their eyes when I refer to them as "friends".

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