Trump I think has the whole world twitchy, someone who when faces any type of public criticism takes to 3am ranting on twitter doesn't really inspire me that I should trust him to have his finger anywhere near the button.
If he did in fact ask why they can't use nukes it also proves he does not understand MAD although I gather he would of been briefed on that by now.
I was too young to remember the cold war but I am fairly certain I now know the feeling of fear that people may of felt then, it wasn't a gradual build up because the likes of N Korea or Pakistan have nukes, it was waking up to find this true megalomaniacal bully of a person would be calling the shots.
Like it or not the whole world gasped that day.
Why, when it comes to israel, do you reckon we always abstain or vote no at the UN for starters ????
At least the Kiwis had the guts to put forward what they thought re the current zionist push for settlements.
Why were we so silent??????
Why, when it comes to israel, do you reckon we always abstain or vote no at the UN for starters ????
At least the Kiwis had the guts to put forward what they thought re the current zionist push for settlements.
Why were we so silent??????
Andrew
Good call Andrew. I thought that odd at the time, but didn't put two n two together.
So what do you think our angle is there? Why do we need to cow-tow to them?
I suspect its all down to "commerce", and i'm not sure its "Kow towing", its just them running it, and our pollies are impotent to do anything, lest they lose favour. Lets face it, most of our current pollies are just sock puppets controlled by some behind the scenes power brokers.
Just look at what percentage of Australias population is jewish/zionist
relative to how much money it controls >>and money controls politics.<<
ie
Libermans, Smorgons, Pratts, Lowrys, Glasenburgs, Triguboffs, Gandels, Lews, Vidors, Milgroms etc
If you think they have no sway over the incumbent governments, then i have a really nice bridge in Sydney harbour to sell to you cheap :-)
There was an interesting doco out about a year ago where an Aussie forensic Scientist was able to point the finger at one of the secret service agents in the car behind JFK. The suggestion is they were "under the weather" from the night before and one of them had a rife that was accidentally fired after the first shot. The analysis of the trajectory of the shot to the back of his head, the forensic cover up and the responses from those involved were pretty interesting to say the least. Well worth looking at if you get a chance.
I saw that. It was an interesting theory, and had some good evidence for it.
It is entirely possible.
In my army days I've seen dozens of people accidentally fire their weapons. Not drunk or hungover, not idiots, but intelligent professional soldiers who forgot one stage in a weapons drill, once out of the thousands of times that they had done it.
An old Melbourne radio announcer once said "If it's a choice between it being a conspiracy and a stuff up, bet on it being a stuff up every time."
They were wise words.
[QUOTE=AussieTrooper;1289925]It will be interesting to see how Trump handles the Israeli lobby. It seems just incredible that such a small country on the other side of the world can wield such immense influence on US foreign policy.
Trump doesn't seem to owe any favours the way that so many other DC politicians do.
quOTE]
But the jewish lobby is incredibly strong there and here
So long as it's not a Newcular war (as SOOOOOOOOO many pronounced it during the 70's and 80's)... we all know newcular is far more dangerous than nuclear (which is really really not difficult to pronounce).
Blaming the Jews...blaming the Muslims...USA creating ISIS to create a "global enemy" to propel it's jewish backed NWO...then USA slams Israel in the current "administrations" death throws... one then the other. New administration asserts it will stop the NWO/globalisation plans...and current admin goes ape-poop and desperately creating "stuff" prior to inauguration, still TRYING to stir the pot with Russia since their other plans have failed so miserably. When will this bigotted self-concerned world become sentient, rather than a blame-hate (jealous) society?
I say PLEASE, Alien race come...it'll give the nuts a new enemy to fight against or start an entirely new blame/jealous/hatred dogma.
At risk of sounding nieve, do you have more info on that suggestion Andrew (or Clive)?
Thanks in advance.
Hi Paul,
I have never made an attempt to delve in to the dirty laundry basket of Australian politics, so I couldn't tell you anything more than peripheral stuff.
However, there is an excellent documentary which may be germane to the discussion.
Go to youtube
Search: SBS Whistleblower Andrew Wilke
If you like to read, I highly recommend: Axis of Deceit - Andrew Wilke
Even though the book was heavily redacted by our chums at ASIO (without the authors consent) There is enough smoke coming out of the sock draw to adduce the origin of the fire.
best
~c
Not THE Jews... Some Jews... (a very small fraction of them in fact) The rest are being led by the nose.
and, context is everything.
fwiw) I have more Israeli friends than I have from the country of my birth. Only one of them is open to discussing the history of Israel, the others have had their thought process hard wired in to conflating a discussion of Israeli history with a grievous (anti-semitic) racial attack.
You can see that attitude writ large in Israel's response to criticism in the UN for what amounts to systemic criminality at the executive level.
Incidentally, I subscribe to the "Times of Israel Daily"
It's free, and they'll send a copy to your email every day.
I recommend 'Hoffman glasses' as you read, however. (John Carpenter - They Live, if you want to understand the euphemism)
Point being; I think it would be a fair statement to suggest that the Israeli's have been victims of a coordinated system of propaganda that is so pervasive and complete that it takes a very special individual to pierce the veil.
Some of the editorials... how can I put this? ... Make Andrew Bolt look like a moderate left wing humanitarian of towering intellect - A bastion of self deprecation, contrition and critical thinking.
Haaretz is more balanced and occasionally they'll print a nugget or two, and it has to be said that they sometimes put in to words that which would cause a furore were it spoken of in the Western media.
Though I don't agree with my Israeli friends sense of nationalism, I can fully understand why they think the way they do.
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Forgive me for going way off topic Alex... but you may find this interesting.
I came across a little nugget a while back that reinforces my caution when trying to untangle the web of history.. It's a bit like peeling away layers of an onion, each one forcing you to accept that no matter how much you uncover... your world view can easily be turned upside down.
According to the encyclopaedia Judaica.. (the default reference for all things, Jewish)
The custodians of the Vatican treasury (since 1776 - an auspicious date if ever there was one) are none other than Rothschilds. WTF?
If you are familiar with the history of the Napoleon and the Jesuit order, Knights of Malta, the legacy of the Borgias and the Rothschild family's association with Sabbatai Tsevi... well... this is the bit where you could hear the sound of gears crashing in my brain, with a little hiss of steam drifting up to the ceiling..
Anyway, point being, I fully understand that I am not likely to get close to an accurate perception of history.. I just chew on it for my own personal entertainment.
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Hi Clive,
Well the past dictates the future so your search is relevant.
I think the greater Israel plan is in operation whether by design (likely) or accident (also possible) and neither the Jews Christians or Muslims should complain ... If you wish to hold up basic idea in the bible as authority what else can you expect.
And war by deception is an old idea presumably borrowed from the Chinese (see Art of War).
Who knows what world power brokers think or do..
The way I act and operate would be different if I was a world player that's for sure.
Folk should not even try to judge.
There may be a lot wrong but you don't know how things could be done better.
And although one can read history it is not easy to really understand what is going on.
What occurred to me the other day is that there may be a higher order of "rulers" that are using the Zionists for their goals.
But the Zionists are presented for the underclass to focus upon and hate.
Joe Bidden proclaimed himself a Zionist so if true to the letter that should provide us with some interest in the near future.
The only comfort is that with no war we can have no peace and many inventions developed for war finally become of benefit to the under class.
Think about the development of surgery under the Roman military. All those battles produced better surgery.
This an ill wind that blows no good.
Who knows the atomic bomb may one day save the planet by chamging the course of a Earth destroying rock or prevent an invasion of an alien species.
We do need a world Government to coordinate construction of battle stars..I know they are coming and hope we will be ready in time.
When we have consumed everything on this planet we will look elsewhere is there any reason to think that another species has not already found it necessary to find another planet to harvest.
We think it is not possible to travel very far but that is because we don't know better.
Once only a short time ago we could not imagine humans flying.
Imagine if all humans were engaged to build giant space ships we could do incredible things..take all those folk out of professional sport, devote all materials to the project and all of a sudden one realises if we were forced to leave we could do unthinkable things..build a mini planet and leave for another system.
Do I believe any of this..no..I don't believe anything I just observe and speculate.
Alex
Hi Paul,
I have never made an attempt to delve in to the dirty laundry basket of Australian politics, so I couldn't tell you anything more than peripheral stuff.
However, there is an excellent documentary which may be germane to the discussion.
Go to youtube
Search: SBS Whistleblower Andrew Wilke
If you like to read, I highly recommend: Axis of Deceit - Andrew Wilke
Even though the book was heavily redacted by our chums at ASIO (without the authors consent) There is enough smoke coming out of the sock draw to adduce the origin of the fire.
best
~c
Hi Clive,
thanks for responding. I just watched the first 10 minutes of the Andrew Wilke doco and will watch it in full on the big screen tonight. It looks fascinating - thanks for sharing
thanks for responding. I just watched the first 10 minutes of the Andrew Wilke doco and will watch it in full on the big screen tonight. It looks fascinating - thanks for sharing
What occurred to me the other day is that there may be a higher order of "rulers" that are using the Zionists for their goals.
But the Zionists are presented for the underclass to focus upon and hate.
Ah yes, the classic Hegelian dialectic.. that occurred to me some time ago... the Jesuits maybe? - a slippery bunch of vipers slithering in the shadows if ever there was one. (Napoleon's hidden hand wasn't just a fashion statement)
Then of course there is the Dönmeh - Saabateans... they don't tick all the boxes though... maybe high level pawns?
And then there is the ideological group that NEVER gets mentioned.
The occultists... Satanists, if you will.. They probably don't refer to themselves in such terms though. However, their fingerprints seem to be on every thread of the tapestry. I marvel at their capacity for discretion whilst simultaneously spelling it out when it suits them for anyone to see in plain sight, through ritual and symbolism. It's almost like they are acquiring consent from the deaf and the blind, because them's the rules.
They have a sense of humour, I'll give them that.
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