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Old 03-12-2006, 09:22 PM
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Sorry Alex, I have been caught up with other things.
"Alex……Well would it if we could make a confinement large enough..Lets go the other way remove all confinement and shielding by taking our mass into deep space as far as possible away from anything that could be deemed to shield it from the gravity rain. We now have a situation where the mass will be observed to be weightless. What would our scales show now I expect nothing at all. How can this be explained in the gravity rain concept..well the gravity rain comes from everywhere and is not experiencing any imbalance due to shielding. I suspect however if we increased its velocity this could create and imbalance and in effect produce and effect we may well interpret as gravity."
In point of fact, if such a hypothetical experiment could be conducted, we would need a very sensitive set of scales. We would then find that the 1kg mass was still 1kg. instead of having a measured weight of 9.8 newtons, our test mass would have a weight equivalent to the 1kg x acceleration due to the mass/gravity effect of itself and the scales, but in theory it would be a measurable quantity.

Going back to the professor's understanding of 3D space, and since you mention it somewhat in connection with a singularity in another thread, I thought I should share with you an experiment he had me conduct.

First let us consider a plain sheet of paper set before us, and the ink, pencil etc we will later draw with to be of zero thickness. We now have before us a 2 dimensional space. In your mind's eye, move down into that 2 dimensional space until you become a part of it. That 2D space is, for the sake of this experiment limitless. Look around, what do you see? Remember you can only look in the 2 dimensions that sheet of paper represents. OK, now with the 2d pencil that you brought with you, draw a straight line.
That straight line has only one dimension.
With your minds eye, move forward into that line. Now what do you see?
You now have only one dimension to perceive, and that dimension you will notice is a point of zero size; it is a singularity. It worked for me, though the professor was fairly having kittens along the way because he could not explain things with mathematics basic enough for my 'primitive' brain to comprehend! ( hey thanks professor, I respect your feelings too)
Can you see now why in real terms, the removal of any one dimension must necessarily remove the other 2?

He went on to explain that the transition interval where a singularity blossoms out to become a 3d universe can only happen instantaniously. The three dimensions can not grow or expand; either they are or they are not.
(A fact overlooked by expanding universe proponents.)
He went on to say that given the instantaneous eruption of the 3Ds from a singularity, all matter will be in place in zero time. This does not mean that vast distances can be traversed in zero time., nor does it mean that once in place, matter can not move about. He said that he was still working on Mathematics which would explain why inertia and a few other anomalous factors, could not be part of the instantaneous coming into being of the 3 dimensions, but for now it is sufficient to accept the fact as an actuality.

have fun,
Cheers,
Doug
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Old 04-12-2006, 01:58 PM
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Hi Doug
Yes I see the point. T is indeed a necessary ingredient of many formulea.
I try to incorporate T in a sort of frame be frame view like a cartoon but looking at each page for a long time. C is finite and will make T inescapable.
Lets go out in space with a hydrogen atom.. space will be bent towards it under the gravity rain idea by gr from one direction giving up energy as it passes the atom thereby being less energetic when encountering the gr on the other side. The effect is pressure bias, for the want of a better expression. But it is the bend in space time we would call gravity ..defined by one line but replicated in 3d with t I dont know where to fit.
I then asked if this could be the way it works how does a gr packet give up energy ..maybe it is this that powers the electron ..the electron taking from the constant supply of gr all the energy it needs to continue its orbit...There not only gravity but atomic energy explained .
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:05 PM
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Hey how good is a chicken you draw a line like that and they will look at the end of it in deep thought for ages.. no doubt they are considering the implications .
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