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Old 23-10-2015, 02:55 PM
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In the time you spent typing that up, Marcus, you could have processed an entire image.

BatchPreProcessing Script for calibration (ImageCalibration), cosmetic correction (CosmeticCorrection), registration (StarAlignment).
ImageIntegration
DrizzleIntegration

Then, you can, if you wish, do your arcane stuff here.

Then, LRGBCombination, or PixelMath to stack your LRGB masters.

That's the basics!

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Old 23-10-2015, 03:17 PM
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In the time you spent typing that up, Marcus, you could have processed an entire image. ...
Yeah in Photoshop!

Seriously though I do actually have PI (mainly to test DBE), but haven't been able to wrap my head around the app as a whole. I think that's because, workflow wise, PS is second nature to me now and so is very quick for me to use. Plus there's nothing I can't do with it (plus CCDStack).
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Old 23-10-2015, 03:26 PM
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How to place your shoes in a shoe box – A PI workflow:
LMAO!

The last time I took an astrophoto (about six months ago) I used PI for a good chunk of it and it will be my starting point going forward. But this did make me laugh!

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Old 23-10-2015, 05:24 PM
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That's hilarious Marcus

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Old 23-10-2015, 06:14 PM
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Feel the same way Marcus. I don't use PI and I doubt that I ever will. Good luck to anyone trying to learn it.

Just on star rounding. If you guiding is near perfect there is no need for such a function
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Old 23-10-2015, 06:36 PM
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How to place your shoes in a shoe box – A PI workflow:
  1. It may also help to have studied Best Practices for Application User Interface design.
Not sure why you'd need to have done that, it's clear the developers didn't ;-)
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Old 23-10-2015, 08:31 PM
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Feel the same way Marcus. I don't use PI and I doubt that I ever will. Good luck to anyone trying to learn it.

Just on star rounding. If you guiding is near perfect there is no need for such a function
Its the operating system and the way you handle windows and processes. Its not as complicated as it seems. An hours' study yesterday got me up to a usable state. I agree doing basics well is always superior. But from my little use so far there seems to be an advantage and gain to be had in some uses. I know you're a perfectionist Paul so if PI proves to do certain things better I can't see you resisting!!

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Old 23-10-2015, 08:41 PM
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Quite funny thread with several amusing comments

It is interesting (for me) to notice that my experience with PS vs PI is somehow different...

I have fallen in love with PI since I first launched it on my computer. I found PS too confusing with its countless tools that were nothing like what I have experienced before (namely Paint) and I could not see very clearly how tools in PS relate to astrophotography. I eventually concluded that a superior and more creative mind than mine is required to effectively utilise PS in astrophotography. My negligible expertise in graphics and photography (and astrophotography) made it even more challenging to become proficient and comfortable in the PS environment.

After about a few months of educating myself how to use PS my suffering has luckily ceased when I was made aware of PI.

Still learning how to use PI (that will probably never end), but it provides sufficient range of effective tools for me at this stage in my development as an aspiring astrophotographer so I need not to look anywhere else.
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Old 23-10-2015, 09:14 PM
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I always give the UI crap, but you won't find me using anything else! I did briefly go back to PS for some colour tweaks but that's about it. I need to get better at working with colour, I find it really difficult.
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Old 23-10-2015, 09:25 PM
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Similarly, I struggled with PS when I first started using it, not having gone through teenage years drawing bigger "accessories" on celebrities

Then getting started with PI took a couple of hours to experiment with the basics, and then it's tinkering with data to get a feel for the parameters and effects. There's no turning back now

I like that there's more to learn, and long may it continue!
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Old 23-10-2015, 10:10 PM
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Gee I hope this thread doesn't veer off into a PI v PS etc. If PI doesn't look sexy, off you scoot!

Here's a list of some great PI Tutorials.

Firstly, become a member of the Pixinsight forum.

Pixinsight Resources videos Great for getting to know PI

Harrys astroshed Tutorials
Great for newbies

LightVortex Tutorials
I generally follow the DSLR OSC Tutorial with some bits dropped out or substituted for updated procedures

Gerald Wechselberger Pixel Math video Tutorials These are great!

Some other "Tool"specific Tutorials I have bookmarked are:

Star Marks generation Pixinsight Forum

DBE - removing gradients while preserving very faint background detail. Deep Sky Colours

Mike Wiles PI Deconvolution Tutorial You Tube

Last but very inportant, I have a word document which consists of any tips Rick Stevenson posts on Ice in Space, just copy and paste.

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Old 23-10-2015, 10:39 PM
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Some really good links Rod!

I found this one on using tone maps very useful: http://www.arciereceleste.it/tutoria...omposition-eng
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Old 25-10-2015, 08:56 PM
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It's been about two years sinse I've taken an image but I've just got my rig installed at the new digs so will be delving into AP again. The thing that scares me the most is getting to grips with PI again. I was just getting the hang of it, but now....
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Old 25-10-2015, 09:02 PM
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It's been about two years sinse I've taken an image but I've just got my rig installed at the new digs so will be delving into AP again. The thing that scares me the most is getting to grips with PI again. I was just getting the hang of it, but now....

Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger...

The point is to have fun - great that you are imaging again
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Old 26-10-2015, 09:19 AM
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Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger...

The point is to have fun - great that you are imaging again

Hehe.Star Wars got it wrong. Actually I think you'll find anger leads to fear not the other way round.

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