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15-04-2015, 09:31 PM
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Cheers boys  glad the spare time tinkering was enjoyed
Greg, I think the slight softness you mention is a function of three things, the seeing which was very average, not having enough data to go harder on the sharpening (only 2hrs total) and the fact that it is zoomed in so much. While acknowledging all that, truth is, I was actually quite happy with that slight softness as I thought in this case it imparted a natural gaseous feel...besides had I gone hard with all those filters you mentioned I would have been hot diggidy Davies Slammed for over cooking  (luv ya Marcus  )
David, it is a very obscure nebula in the backwaters of Sagittarius called..?.. M8 I believe or The Lagoon Nebula  Marc Aragnou put me on to it some years ago
Mike
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15-04-2015, 11:32 PM
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Very beautiful image Mike.
I'm probably not qualified to comment on the tech aspects, but your intention to show off the cluster works very well. The Nebula is dreamy, creamy and smooth.
It's probably just me but the colour palette is a bit pinky purple for my taste - (I prefer a bolder redder presentation of this object). But as always, a lovely, one could say bold - iconic presentation of a well imaged favourite
Cheers
Andy
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15-04-2015, 11:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Andy01
Very beautiful image Mike.
I'm probably not qualified to comment on the tech aspects, but your intention to show off the cluster works very well. The Nebula is dreamy, creamy and smooth.
It's probably just me but the colour palette is a bit pinky purple for my taste - (I prefer a bolder redder presentation of this object). But as always, a lovely, one could say bold - iconic presentation of a well imaged favourite
Cheers
Andy
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Thanks heaps Andy, coming from the artist imager that you are I will take that one  ...aaah but you see, the artist in you is perhaps the reason you find it too "pinky" too  ...the colour is in fact magenta  , ie the exact colour of strong Halpha and weak Hbeta emission when mixed, it's just physics  , It is not red. Of course the exact hue and saturation of magenta is indeed up for debate
Mike
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16-04-2015, 12:15 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by strongmanmike
David, it is a very obscure nebula in the backwaters of Sagittarius called..?.. M8 I believe or The Lagoon Nebula  Marc Aragnou put me on to it some years ago
Mike
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Grrrrr, yet to find a tongue in cheek icon. Nebula is fine and dandy :-)
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16-04-2015, 02:07 AM
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Sweet image Mike. Looks delicious.
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16-04-2015, 07:18 AM
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Love the image Mike.
Once we move AGAIN (but this is the FINAL time ever!) I will be able to start doing some serious imaging again. Looking forward to taking this target again. (Lots of agains...)
Love it Mike!
DJ Scotty
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16-04-2015, 11:23 AM
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Sweet image Mike. Looks delicious. 
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Cheers kevin
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Originally Posted by DJScotty
Love the image Mike.
Once we move AGAIN (but this is the FINAL time ever!) I will be able to start doing some serious imaging again. Looking forward to taking this target again. (Lots of agains...)
Love it Mike!
DJ Scotty 
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OH yeah moving is the pits  and getting a stable longer term observatory setup makes imaging life much easier for sure.
Yes, when you get new equipment it is always good to reimage old targets and see what improvements you can get
Mike
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16-04-2015, 01:10 PM
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I like this Mike - nice repro
Sure, maybe a teeny bit soft, but it's a gentle, almost understated, pleasing to the eye rendition (unlike some galaxy images I've seen lately  ). I also think you've succeeded making the cluster pop out.
You say zoomed in. What is the actual image scale of this cropped version?
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16-04-2015, 02:17 PM
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That makes sense. I've seen that in own image. At that image scale seeing becomes the main barrier. Very funny post.
Greg, I think the slight softness you mention is a function of three things, the seeing which was very average, not having enough data to go harder on the sharpening (only 2hrs total) and the fact that it is zoomed in so much. While acknowledging all that, truth is, I was actually quite happy with that slight softness as I thought in this case it imparted a natural gaseous feel...besides had I gone hard with all those filters you mentioned I would have been hot diggidy Davis Slammed for over cooking  (luv ya Marcus  )
Greg.
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16-04-2015, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by strongmanmike
.. ..besides had I gone hard with all those filters you mentioned I would have been hot diggidy Davis Slammed for over cooking  (luv ya Marcus  )
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That's DaviEs Mr Sidono!
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16-04-2015, 02:25 PM
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Originally Posted by gregbradley
That makes sense. I've seen that in own image. At that image scale seeing becomes the main barrier. Very funny post.
Greg, I think the slight softness you mention is a function of three things, the seeing which was very average, not having enough data to go harder on the sharpening (only 2hrs total) and the fact that it is zoomed in so much. While acknowledging all that, truth is, I was actually quite happy with that slight softness as I thought in this case it imparted a natural gaseous feel...besides had I gone hard with all those filters you mentioned I would have been hot diggidy Davis Slammed for over cooking  (luv ya Marcus  )
Greg.
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Err, that should have read "Davies" slammed
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16-04-2015, 02:26 PM
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That's DaviEs Mr Sidono! 
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 yeah just noticed that spelling mustake and made the correction, you were too quick
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16-04-2015, 09:01 PM
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Hey Mike,
I think you need to pump the ddp, then push the curve from the midtone all the way to the left, drop a blending layer in and multiply the flux quartex. The image should be fine then.
Otherwise you did a great job.
Regards,
Steve.
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16-04-2015, 11:49 PM
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Originally Posted by stevous67
Hey Mike,
I think you need to pump the ddp, then push the curve from the midtone all the way to the left, drop a blending layer in and multiply the flux quartex. The image should be fine then.
Otherwise you did a great job.
Regards,
Steve.
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I think you need to elaborate moron that Steve, I'm a little confused  I've heard of the flux quartex but not ddp
Better go read up on that, all sounds very useful
Mike
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17-04-2015, 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by strongmanmike
I think you need to elaborate moron that Steve, I'm a little confused  I've heard of the flux quartex but not ddp
Better go read up on that, all sounds very useful
Mike
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No problems ["moron" - cheeky bugger  ], I'll show you how to stretch the hell out of it and over saturate it at SPSP. I did enrol last night. Keep dispatching your underlings.
Talk soon,
Steve
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17-04-2015, 04:34 PM
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Originally Posted by stevous67
No problems ["moron" - cheeky bugger  ], I'll show you how to stretch the hell out of it and over saturate it at SPSP. I did enrol last night. Keep dispatching your underlings.
Talk soon,
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 great news  and I look forward to sharing notes, you bring a nice bottle of 2010 Flux Quartex and I'll bring a wee DDP single malt.
It's a serious business this imaging game
Mike
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17-04-2015, 05:08 PM
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Nice Mike! 
Best detail I've seen in the hour glass!!
Cheers,
Justin.
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17-04-2015, 07:23 PM
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Nice Mike! 
Best detail I've seen in the hour glass!!
Cheers,
Justin.
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Cheers Justin but I have seen better, buuuut we do what we can with what we have in the conditions delivered to us, that's all one can ask, getting the best out of those variables, or even just to take an image for fun, regardless of quality, is what it should be all about
Mike
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20-04-2015, 05:55 PM
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A beautiful Lagoon photo Mike.
Nice, smooth colours and such deep, fine detail.
Very sharp and as usual with your photos, I love the composition.
Ross.
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20-04-2015, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by strongmanmike
Cheers Justin but I have seen better, buuuut we do what we can with what we have in the conditions delivered to us, that's all one can ask, getting the best out of those variables, or even just to take an image for fun, regardless of quality, is what it should be all about
Mike
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Well said Mike!
Totally agree.
Cheers,
Justin.
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