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Old 30-09-2014, 09:19 PM
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who's being pulling our strings dominating what our pollies do for over 100 years, the UK and US who else.
Trevor, whilst it is true that our country does the bidding of the US & UK, it is also true that the public face of the governments of these countries are several rungs lower in the hierarchy of control than the interest group that is really directing the course of proceedings more often than not. It is my understanding that the organs of state of the US, UK (and even the Zionists to some extent) are being used as pawns and lightening rods.

This is demonstrable with a guided tour through the historical record.
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Old 30-09-2014, 09:33 PM
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Why indeed, it would be nice not to be reliant on outdated American tech.
GPS for example, nice to know that the Americans can monitor and effectively cut you off from the system. Useful too seeing as civil infrastructure and the military rely heavily on it.
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Old 30-09-2014, 09:56 PM
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Can't think of any good reason why we should be in the space race - it simply isn't necessary to investigate the behaviour of the bacteria in termites guts nor the sex lives of monkeys in a zero-G environment, for the simple reason they don't live in zero G on earth.
I think this is quite a narrow outlook and perspective of the science done in space. Whether it be by humans, animals, or robotics, it does have a huge impact here on earth (beyond Teflon). They don't send up a few monkeys to have sex just because they think it'll be fun.

Research in zero or micro-g provides us with insights we could otherwise not easily obtain on earth. Vacuum chambers provide us with a space-like environment (except they still contain gravity and are shielded from the radiation in space). This space-like environment gave us light bulbs, particle accelerators, electron microscopes, computer chips, etc. Going the extra step to experiment in micro-g provides us with even more.

Take materials science. Research in zero-G or microgravity on the ISS allows us to design new materials and work out ways to combine materials in new ways not easily possible on earth (e.g. http://science.nasa.gov/science-news...msad15sep99_1/)

Then there is research into energy generation. Things like combustion area studied in microgravity to provide insights into more efficient ways to produce energy.

There really is a LOT that goes on up there which isn't often publicised. The economic returns of space science are quite high.

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Old 30-09-2014, 10:01 PM
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There really is a LOT that goes on up there which isn't often publicised. The economic returns of space science are quite high.
Very, very true.


http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/m...r-economy.html


And that is just the UK.

Invest in space, science, education and nature and not invest in debt and you will be making money hand over fist.
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Old 30-09-2014, 10:23 PM
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I think Sir Jo had the right idea. Build a space port at the tip of Cape York. The closer the launch site is to the equator, the less fuel needed to reach orbit, if I remember correctly. That way we could be competitive in the international space market.
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