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Old 03-08-2014, 11:01 PM
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Wow, great to see some pics Julian and Peter, thanks! And both 90mm too.

How robust would the various optics be regarding refractor, MCT and SCT?
I'm thinking bone jarring corrugations here even though the scope should be in a foam enclosed case or bag.

From what I understand the SCTs are collimatable, the synta MCTs aren't. A refractor should be more robust. I'm keen on an 5" Mak as an addition but not sure I could risk it going out of collimation as I read it's expensive to fix.

Wavytone, thanks for the options, what have you travelled with that you would revise?
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Old 03-08-2014, 11:05 PM
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I have a Sky90 as a travel scope on an ultra light Ayol Traveler mount.
Works great.
I am ashamed to say I have wasted an obscene amount of money on various small refractors trying to find the "perfect" grab and go and without a doubt IMO the Sky90 is it. Almost 4' of aperture, "real" fluorite crystal lens and insane how small it is - about the size of most 70mm refractors.

The catch is

A) You need to get one with the feathertouch focuser
B) They are now discontinued and appear to be well on their way to being rare collectors status
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:19 AM
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Wow, great to see some pics Julian and Peter, thanks! And both 90mm too.

How robust would the various optics be regarding refractor, MCT and SCT?
I'm thinking bone jarring corrugations here even though the scope should be in a foam enclosed case or bag.

From what I understand the SCTs are collimatable, the synta MCTs aren't. A refractor should be more robust. I'm keen on an 5" Mak as an addition but not sure I could risk it going out of collimation as I read it's expensive to fix.

Wavytone, thanks for the options, what have you travelled with that you would revise?
You should see how small a package my 90 mm Mak packs into!

The OTA fits into the Styrofoam box that it came in, which is 350 mm x 150 mm x 150 mm, and then the only other things you need to pack are the finder, a couple of eyepieces, and a tripod (which you can share with your camera, as the OTA has a standard camera screw-thread). It all fits comfortably into a backpack or a small suitcase, with room left over. The biggest risk is of losing the accessories in the recesses of your luggage!

Pretty well all Maks (especially in the 90 mm - 127 mm range) have the secondary silvered onto the front full-aperture corrector, so there are no moving parts associated with the secondary to go out of alignment. The primary mirror moves during focussing, but the focussing mechanisms also seem pretty robust against mis-alignment.

Barring some sort of really massive knock, Maks are exceptionally good at holding their collimation - in fact, Dmitri Maksutov invented the telescope design to be a rugged design for school and military use. As long as you treat it with a bit of respect (like you would treat your camera or binoculars), going out of collimation should not be an issue.

A short-tube refractor is similarly rugged; long-tube refractors are a bit more fragile, and take up more space than a short-tube (obviously!), but can also handle transportation pretty comfortably, especially if you've got a reasonable bit of padding around the OTA.

SCTs have an adjustable secondary which can go out of collimation, but most owners will tell you this is rarely a problem if you handle the telescope sensibly. The biggest issue with SCTs as a travel-scope is that they tend to be physically bigger than Maks and short-tube refractors (which is great when you want light-gathering, but can be an issue for a travel scope), and they also need a bigger mount as well, to handle the extra weight. If your car has space for an 8" SCT and its mount, or if star-gazing is a key part of your trips away, then why not? But it's not a scope that most people are likely to pack in their luggage for a plane trip anywhere, or for a quick spur-of-the-moment getaway.
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Old 04-08-2014, 12:17 PM
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I have often used my Stellarvue 70ED f6 as my travel scope. Very nice optics, two-speed rotatable focuser, well made and very solid and in a nice travel case. (38x28x16cm) Fits nicely on a good camera tripod.
I have travelled to many Outback locations with it, no problems at all.
Plus, I will be advertising it for sale shortly as I have just upgraded to a TV76...
Let's know if you are interested.

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Old 04-08-2014, 06:16 PM
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Bresser Messier MC 100/1400 Mak

Hi Simon,

This is my grab and go 100x1400 Mak with Binowiewer.
And dew shield from thin sheet plastic.

I paid around $350 del to Canberra.

Sample video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJw0SfUl0ZA

And my Kson portable mount can carry 11kg.

This scope can be collimated with allen key.
I have traveled on rough roads inside this box and has not moved out of collimation.
My sample has excellent optics for aperture (good all round scope).

For wide field views use your binos.

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Old 06-08-2014, 02:03 PM
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Awesome pics and options there guys, thanks! I guess part of the fun is in researching the options.That Sky90 looks great but must be a rare find now.

I can see an 80mm short tube being good for dark skies and travel but not so good for light polluted back yards. Not keen on anything smaller in aperture. A cheaper one doubling up as a kids scope could be justified. A 5" Skywatcher Mak and Vixen Porta II is looking the goods at this stage.
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Old 06-08-2014, 05:32 PM
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I've been doing a bit of shopping on eBay and elsewhere recently - but with a very tight budget limit; here's what I've collected as my travel telescope kit. (Prices are local purchase, or inclusive of postage and packaging to my home in Brisbane, unless noted otherwise.)

For the bare minimum equipment (e.g. for a quick weekend getaway, with a single small suitcase for all my possessions, including the telescope kit):
  • 90 mm x 1200 mm Mak (as discussed in previous posts) - $247 delivered
  • Non-powered Alt-Az tripod that came with the telescope (also doubles as a camera tripod) - included
  • Generic Red Dot Finder - $39
  • Seben 7.5 mm - 22.5 mm Zoom Eyepiece - $31
  • 45 degree "erect image" prism (for terrestrial use) - included with the Mak
  • Android Smartphone (which I already own) with SkEye app (Basic is free, or Pro is $6.38), and a generic "Gorilla-Pod"-type flexible tripod / grip / phone holder ($4.16) to hold the phone onto the telescope to use as a "Push-To" controller.
Total investment for this lightweight travel set-up: less than $330

When I have the option of just a bit more space (e.g. car trips, or longer vacations where I can pack a separate small bag for the telescope kit):
  • 90 mm Mak, RDF, prism, etc as before
  • My full kit of eyepieces and Barlows etc, all in a small aluminium carry-case
  • Celestron SLT mount which I bought second-hand with the original 130 mm Celestron Newtonian (650 mm focal length), all in very good condition, for $150 (You can get a real bargain on GumTree sometimes!)
  • Dovetail mounting bracket to suit the SLT mount, with a standard camera-mount screw, to fit the Mak onto the SLT mount - $45
  • 12 volt SLA battery to power the SLT mount, plus charger (bought from JayCar for about $50 - not essential, but provides much longer usage time than the 8 x AA batteries in the SLT mount
  • Bluetooth controller for Celestron SLT - bought from Cathy (IIS Member "coldnights") - allows me to drive the mount from my Android phone or tablet (using SkySafari app) or Windows computer (using Cartes du Ciel with ASCOM drivers)
  • 3 Mp "webcam" type digital planetary camera, which can be driven from a Windows laptop or tablet. The planetary camera cost me about $50 on eBay; an obvious upgrade would be to get a more sensitive "deep space" camera, but I'm just "cutting my teeth" so far. (And I suspect my SLT Alt-Az mount and 90 mm Mak wouldn't really justify getting a decent deep space camera.)
  • Toshiba Encore 8.1" Windows 8.1 tablet - bought from Dick Smith for $299. I already have several Windows 7 / 8 notebook computers, but I really don't want to lug one around just in case I decide to do a spot of astro-photography. This thing is a full Windows computer (not Windows RT), and it can drive the planetary camera (it's really nice to be able to share the telescope view with an audience, using the 8.1" screen for a "live" view) AND run Cartes du Ciel / ASCOM to control the SLT mount AND run RegiStax or similar and general photo editing software, so I can even do some basic stacking and post-processing out in the field. Sure, an 8.1" touch-screen computer is not the ideal platform for doing serious photo / video editing, but it can actually handle the task (especially if I team it with a Bluetooth keyboard / mouse), and for sheer light-weight convenience, and to avoid running the risk of losing or damaging an expensive (and bulky) laptop computer, it's pretty hard to beat!

Total investment for all of this gear: about $1,000 (including the Celestron SLT 130 OTA, which I don't generally take travelling with me)
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