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Old 09-10-2013, 07:01 AM
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I've been following this thread closely - can't wait to get a chance to see some galaxies, although I'm not sure how successful I'll be with my 120mm refractor. I'm in dark skies though - got that going for me - but will need to use all those visual techniques to coax those dark fuzzies out of the night.

One thing though is that I've just bought an app called Observer Pro, which uses you location/time to give a list of DSO's visible by magnitude, name or constellation. I've used it to make a list for this weekend (skies permitting). Thought I'd mention it because it seems very useful so far. Wonder if others have found it helpful in their quest for seeing galaxies?
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:50 AM
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Hi Luke,

I dont know of observer pro but I imagine it is very similar to skywalk (which I use) or the many others out there. I find it very handy in my process which is this.
1.) I use my (detailed enough) star charts which I downloaded and laminated from "eyes on the skies" to locate and mark on the chart what I want to find.
2.) I go somewhere dark and use skywalk on my iphone to find the constellation I want. I find this easier as I am still new to this and dont know many of the constellations yet by eye.
3.) I find the nearest star to the DSO and point my red dot finder at it. Then I use my right angle finder to star hop to where the DSO should be.

Sometimes I can see something fuzzie in the finder and sometimes I cant but even if I cant, this process should put me within 1 or 2 degrees of the target. then I just look through the scope and hover around a bit. If you dont already have a RDF, get one. I just mounted mine to my finderscope and have them both alinged together. They are about $40 and they make life easier because they have 0 magnification which is the easiest place to start, then you can use the magnification on the finder and, then of course the scope. So, effectively, you are starting from 0 and stepping up in magnification in increments while you hone in on the target.

I dont know much about refractors but its only a small step down in aperture from what I am using and I feel Im doing pretty well with mine. Maybe someone with a similar scope can tell you more. The most important piece of advice I can give if looking for galaxies is TAKE THAT SCOPE SOMEWHERE DARK. ie a camping spot in a national park. I often do this and dont camp. Just turn up for a couple of hours. A good rule is, if you can see a large arc of the milky way naked eye you will have a good chance. I would try andromeda at the moment but go late at night probably 2 or 3 am. It will be there from about 10am onwards but you will probably have the same trouble with the atmosphere as I did on the weekend if it is too low. Use your lowest eyepiece. good luck
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Old 09-10-2013, 12:55 PM
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Hi Jas,
Thanks for the tips. I'm lucky that I've got a block of land 2 hrs south of Sydney, and there is a distant glow from Nowra to the south, but otherwise it's dàrk sky.
Do you mean a telrad for RDF? I've been seriously considering getting one to help with polar alignment too. Do you use a reticule too?

Sounds like you've had a lot of success with finding what you're looking for.
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Old 09-10-2013, 06:53 PM
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Reticule?

Hi Luke,
I have no idea what a reticule is and I have never heard the term. To my knowledge a telrad is just a different version of a red dot finder which uses red rings instead of a dot. I cant comment much because I dont have or have never used one. All I can tell you is that when I got my RDF I wished my scope had come with one. I have only been "looking upwards" since may this year and so far I have observed 6 galaxies, 6 planets, several planetary nebula and many emission nebs. I guess I have had a lot of success but I am generally a bit of an obsessive person when it comes to hobbies. ie I tend to start a new hobby and get really passionate about it. (some would say obsessive) None of the galaxies have been observed from my backyard and I live on the outskirts of a smallish town. Your block sounds like a good place to observe. Andromeda is usually in the north so light from the south shouldnt be too much of a problem.
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Old 09-10-2013, 09:34 PM
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My autocorrect got it wrong - its a reticle - an eyepiece with an illuminated grid to help measure and centre objects - http://www.bintel.com.au/Eyepieces-a...oductview.aspx

Anyway, I'll give Andromeda a go this weekend, although the horizon is a bit elevated to the north. I'll let you know if I have any luck with other galaxies.

I know how you feel about new hobbies - I'm pretty obsessed too.

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Old 10-10-2013, 05:31 PM
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3 easy galaxies:
Milky Way
Large Magellanic Cloud
Small Magellanic Cloud
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Old 10-10-2013, 08:31 PM
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Hey Luke, just noticed in the classifieds, profiler is selling a rdf for $10 in Sydney.
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Old 14-10-2013, 11:20 AM
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Mixed success

Spent Friday and Saturday nights on a DSO quest. Best view of a galaxy (Besides SMC,LMC and MW!) was NGC10 -faint but extended across the FOV.
Great views of the orion nebula - mind-blowing, but Andromeda was too low for my position - a mountain was in the way.
I'm coming to learn that organising an observation list is pretty critical to a good nights observing.
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Old 14-10-2013, 02:50 PM
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woohoo! Awesome. NGC10 is a mag12.5. You should have no problems with the other larger galaxies. You should try 253 next, same constellation. Should be a lot easier to see. I was just looking at the jupiters moons app and it is telling me that at about 4.30am on wednesday morning, Io and Europa will pass in front of jupiter. Should first see the shadows cast by the moons as they move across the face and then the moons themselves. apparently, this should be no problem in a 6" so i reckon you've got a shot at this too. 4.30am's no fun though. I have to get up for work at 5.30am anyway so I will give it a go.
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Old 14-10-2013, 08:38 PM
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woohoo! Awesome. NGC10 is a mag12.5. You should have no problems with the other larger galaxies. You should try 253 next, same constellation. Should be a lot easier to see. I was just looking at the jupiters moons app and it is telling me that at about 4.30am on wednesday morning, Io and Europa will pass in front of jupiter. Should first see the shadows cast by the moons as they move across the face and then the moons themselves. apparently, this should be no problem in a 6" so i reckon you've got a shot at this too. 4.30am's no fun though. I have to get up for work at 5.30am anyway so I will give it a go.
4.30 am Once you've pulled on the beanie and jumper, it gets easier! I stayed up till 3.30 on Friday to see Jupiter, and had a lot of atmosphere to look through, so I set the alarm for 5 am the following morning - better views once I cleared the sleep from my eyes. It was stripey, even.

Hope the clouds are kind to you. Great way to start the day!
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Old 15-10-2013, 11:14 AM
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I always whip the scope over to NGC 253 even if its fairly low. It's the top banana in the visual galaxy list. It's got it all- good dust, overlying stars, spirality, luminosity. And as an added bonus it fair fills the eyepiece. None of this dodgy smudge business!
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Old 15-10-2013, 05:42 PM
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What about M31 Andromeda galaxy. The galaxy itself should be naked eye in dark skies and easy through a scope even in semi-dark skies. Have to stay up a bit late though. Probably 10pm onwards. Not too hard to star hop from the square of pegasus.
Yes,

I got a good look 2 weeks ago at Sussex Inlet.

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Old 15-10-2013, 05:45 PM
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And here looks an interesting one for which I'm still to go after....
M29- Cygnus. Open cluster known as The Pants Cluster (or Cooling Tower). Apparently it resembles undies, oh this I have to see.
That's on the list for the next viewing night at a High School

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Old 16-10-2013, 08:55 PM
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Early observing

Hey Jas,
How did things work out for you're early session this morning?
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Old 16-10-2013, 09:50 PM
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Hi Luke. I had a big day so didn't get up in time. But I just noticed that it is happening again at 11.45pm on 18/10. (Friday night) that's a bit friendlier. I will definitely make that one. I will let you know. I should be able to see the shadows cast by the moons but I don't know about seeing the moons themselves.
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