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Old 24-06-2006, 09:18 AM
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Lester these are superb, some of the best on this forum in my opinion.

You have to be wrapped in the detail you have got with the extension. I love it!, now off to check out Asi's
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Old 24-06-2006, 09:32 AM
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Thanks Dave,

Hearing such words from you means a lot.

Yes I am very happy with the results. The scope was still up to 2.5 degrees above ambient, didn't have time to use cooler at all, so goodness knows what could have been. Although its hard for me to emagine.

My thanks must go to Asi, for his hours of showing me the finer points on processing, his eye for detail and subtle changes is far beyond my ability.

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Old 24-06-2006, 09:53 AM
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Just reprocessed the first one from thread 18 with wavletts 1=30 and 2=15

What do you think?
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Old 24-06-2006, 09:53 AM
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Wow Lester, they are just brilliant! I never would have believed there would actually be a problem with capturing 'too much colour' with a scope on Jupiter. I reckon it's possibly camera related though. Perhaps lowering the saturation at capture time would help ?

Could you tell my the settings you captured with please? Spare no details.

Theres a wealth of detail just waiting to be tweaked out of those AVI's yet

You really do need Astraimage mate! I don't understand why the free version has been taken off the internet! Can anyone help here? Gotta get Lester a copy of this...It's driving me CRAZY!
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Old 24-06-2006, 10:01 AM
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Thanks Asi,

The last posted image recipe= 5fps 70% gain 0 gamma 1/10 second exposure 55% saturation 25% brightness

Most of my others were very similar to this except the last where I tried 30% gain 25% gamma 1/5 second exposure 100% saturation 25% brightness and trashed it= full of Onions.
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Old 24-06-2006, 10:10 AM
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yes asi has that "being an absolute natural" with astronomy!

here is a link to astra image on my website

http://precons.com/iceinspace/gallery/ai25max.zip
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Old 24-06-2006, 10:13 AM
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Ah...So thats why the dark limb...25% brightness! I keep reading NOT to touch brightness & contrast EVER! I have experimented with brightness I must admit (lowered it to 40%) But now I leave it alone.
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Old 24-06-2006, 10:14 AM
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Old 24-06-2006, 10:15 AM
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Beauty Davo! There ya go Lester! Happy deconvoluting! WOOO-HOOOO!
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Old 24-06-2006, 10:16 AM
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Oh hell! the big 5000 spam posts! WOOO-HHHH once again! It's all good!!
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Old 24-06-2006, 10:19 AM
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brightness never lower than 50%, i have been lifting to 55 - 60 lately
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Old 24-06-2006, 10:22 AM
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Correct Dave. Now thats probably why Lester is getting the over saturated colours ?
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Old 24-06-2006, 10:26 AM
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Thanks for trying those lower wavelets Lester. No, looks like you had it right with your original wavelets, for these anyway - if you do crack an 8+ seeing night give it another go then. Hard to believe you were still 2.5deg from ambient - incredible.

And like the guys say you gotta get Astra Image - you just gotta.

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Old 24-06-2006, 10:47 AM
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Lester,

Don't want to give you a big head or anything, but your second post is close to matching the very best Jupiter image from an amateur based scope I've ever seen. I second Dennis, I think it would benefit greatly by toning back the color. Its scary to think what extensive image processing would bring in such an image! The whorls and other activity in the polar areas is fantastic!

God I wish for such seeing (and elevation, Jupiter will get no higher than about 42 deg from my location). I don't want to wait till 2010, so I guess a trip is called for.

Congrats on an image you can treasure for a long time.

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Old 24-06-2006, 10:50 AM
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Lester, these images are just fantastic! So much to see in the belts and amazing fine detail even in the festoons.

There's been so much new info for me in this thread about capture and processing settings, some of it very different from what I've been using, especially the low brightness setting. And the zero gamma, isn't that supposed to lead to onion rings? I've never had any success using wavelets 1, 2 or 3 - always seems to increase the grain objectionably.

Going through the processing blahs at the moment. Just too many variables involved and it's hard to pin down cause and effect when you change settings. I can see a (long) period of experimentation coming up.

Anyway, well done - quite inspiring!

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Old 24-06-2006, 11:03 AM
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Thanks Graeme and Glen,

3 months ago I didn't know a thing about imaging Jupiter.

This forum has been fantastic for its guidance in many areas of amateur astronomy. I couldn't have done it so quick without the help of many kind fellow astronomers here. Plus the conditions last night were good, but not an 8/10.
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Old 24-06-2006, 11:08 AM
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Dave,

thanks for the link to Astro-image; (you will laugh) I copied it into program files, couldn't find it, so restarted computer and still cannot find it. I will wait for Celestine to come home after football to retreive it for me.

Man! I have still got a lot to learn.
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Old 24-06-2006, 11:17 AM
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Asi, Mate, friend,

Well done on 5000 posts. You are one of the originals of IIS and I know have helped many.

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Old 24-06-2006, 11:22 AM
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Hi Graeme,

low gain will encourage onion rings, I have been using mostly 70-80% gain.

I could experiment more with gamma. But visually on the laptop gamma washes out the detail.

I must say what I am doing is not necessarily the best, coz still learning too.
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Old 24-06-2006, 11:32 AM
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Don't thank me yet mate, I'm frantically trying to kill this debayering problem..If I do I'm gonna wipe your fantastic meade shots off the planet!

Just joking mate
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