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18-06-2006, 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by astroron
Did anybody read the panel at the bottom of page 8? it says that the responce to the mag going bimonthly was exceptional!, they obviously did not read the forum on iceinspace which went for quite some time, and in my opinion was very negative towards this happening
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I must say I agree with you Ron.
To me, it reads like the publisher/powers-that-be talking the whole change up and trying to "sell" the deal up.
I for one, as a subscriber, am not happy.
Will the bi-monthly version be bigger (more pages)? I doubt it.
Will it be any more timely or stronger in other ways than it's previous monthly version? We'll have to wait and see but my feeling is, again, no.
This simply smacks of some kind of cutback or cost-cutting measure that we're being told is good for us.
These are all my subjective opinions, by the way.
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18-06-2006, 05:48 PM
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Vagabond
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: China
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Originally Posted by astroron
Did anybody read the panel at the bottom of page 8? it says that the responce to the mag going bimonthly was exceptional!, they obviously did not read the forum on iceinspace which went for quite some time, and in my opinion was very negative towards this happening, as I said in one of my posts people subcribed for eleven issues A YEAR, not eleven issues for TWO YEARS.
There are some nice articles but very little observational astronomy, it is a good forum for getting iceinspace members photo's published,but as a true astronomy magazine it leaves a lot to be desired.
This will be my last issue purchased
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Aussie sky and telescope
My main complaint would be the lack of observational astronomy and me thinks they spend too much time on space history, I didn't buy this months issue.
Sky and space
My main complaint is it is never on time 
The solution. Merge, become monthly and rename the new mag australian telescope and space 
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19-06-2006, 02:15 PM
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luke
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Mullumbimby{near Byron}
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Hey Houghy.. This ones for you
as&t=a&t x aas&t - ts&a all going bi-monthly but only every 3 months, for 2 months.Subscriptions will be 3 times the price for 1 third of the time But only if you read them in the usa asap. Pretty clear really
tehehe... 
Ill get in trouble for this for sure
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19-06-2006, 03:49 PM
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He used to cut the grass.
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hobart
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Where's mine?
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19-06-2006, 04:38 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NEWCASTLE NSW Australia
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Originally Posted by josh
Hey Houghy.. This ones for you
as&t=a&t x aas&t - ts&a all going bi-monthly but only every 3 months, for 2 months.Subscriptions will be 3 times the price for 1 third of the time But only if you read them in the usa asap. Pretty clear really
tehehe...
Ill get in trouble for this for sure |
For your information, I have subscribed to AS&T, S&S, A, and S&T and have been known to get AN, and CA, so everything is covered. Failing that could use the www
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19-06-2006, 04:40 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
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Originally Posted by Miaplacidus
Where's mine?
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Same place everyone elses is. DOn't ask S&S for an explaination you will get a 1000 page essay on why its late. just be happy in the service and if your boots feel warm and you have a smile on your face be happy   tomorrow will alway come 
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19-06-2006, 04:46 PM
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He used to cut the grass.
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Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Hobart
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Originally Posted by h0ughy
Same place everyone elses is. DOn't ask S&S for an explaination you will get a 1000 page essay on why its late. just be happy in the service and if your boots feel warm and you have a smile on your face be happy tomorrow will alway come |
But I haven't received either mag (AS&T or S&S)      
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19-06-2006, 04:49 PM
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Grey Nomad
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Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: "Where ever the wind blows".
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and if your boots feel warm and you have a smile on your face be happy |
Yeah! Because it will be h0ughy's young bloke. 
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19-06-2006, 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by xstream
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Just spreadding the nitrates John
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20-06-2006, 12:28 PM
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Grey Nomad
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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20-06-2006, 07:07 PM
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He used to cut the grass.
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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"I haven't got a one yet."
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26-06-2006, 07:07 PM
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Location: Cairns Qld
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Has anyone got their S&S yet ?
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26-06-2006, 07:42 PM
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Originally Posted by gaa_ian
Has anyone got their S&S yet ?
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No, not worried though, it will turn up one day  but not holding my breath
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28-06-2006, 02:46 AM
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You can't have everything
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Acacia Ridge, Queensland
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Originally Posted by matt
I must say I agree with you Ron.
To me, it reads like the publisher/powers-that-be talking the whole change up and trying to "sell" the deal up.
I for one, as a subscriber, am not happy.
Will the bi-monthly version be bigger (more pages)? I doubt it.
Will it be any more timely or stronger in other ways than it's previous monthly version? We'll have to wait and see but my feeling is, again, no.
This simply smacks of some kind of cutback or cost-cutting measure that we're being told is good for us.
These are all my subjective opinions, by the way.
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I agree the result is cost cutting. The market in Australia will struggle to support one monthly mag... even bi-monthly will be tight, let alone with 2 mags. This is why parent S&T is no longer sold at newsagents... to assist the viability of the new mag. (Also why S&S lead a concerted campaign to eliminate Southern Sky) John NAlly will put a spin on it, but economics lies at the roots.
On another note, S&S ALWAYS had a problem being on time, even when John was editor. Again the roots are economics, no matter how many times the (a) printers/offices burnt down, (b) problems with the printer, (c) moved premises, (d) dog ate the proofs, (e) Mars on a cusp with Saturn in Leo. Australia is a small market and Australian mags will suffer.
Tony
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28-06-2006, 02:56 AM
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You can't have everything
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Acacia Ridge, Queensland
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Originally Posted by mickoking
Aussie sky and telescope
My main complaint would be the lack of observational astronomy and me thinks they spend too much time on space history, I didn't buy this months issue.
Sky and space
My main complaint is it is never on time
The solution. Merge, become monthly and rename the new mag australian telescope and space |
Too much bad blood between Lyle Rumble and John Nally for that to happen. The content is determined by the licence from S&T... a certain amount has to be bought from the US and sources of quality aussie material is scarce.
A solution for any short comings is to write articles for publication. You might get some pocket money and there will be more local content. Another thing will be support... if no-one buys the mag, they don't have enough money to print.
I'm not saying you have to buy this mag or that, but if we don't support what we've got, we won't have it for long.
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28-06-2006, 08:35 PM
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Vagabond
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: China
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I can quite easily live with out S+S and AS+T its no hassle. It is upto those two magazines to get their act together. Maybe the Editors of the two mag's should have their heads banged together, we don't care about politics or personalities, we just want a locally produced and viable local mag. Otherwise I am going back to Astronomy
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28-06-2006, 08:53 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NEWCASTLE NSW Australia
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I saw S&S in the newsagents, I am still waiting for my Subscribers copy, normally you would think you get that before it hits the shelves. It has never been that way!
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29-06-2006, 06:49 AM
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1300 THESKY
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Location: Cairns Qld
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Yep ... got the Email, letting us know its coming !
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29-06-2006, 04:52 PM
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Vagabond
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Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: China
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Just returned from shopping where I saw Sky and Space in the newsagents. Didn't buy it, Im sorta over Astronomy mags
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29-06-2006, 06:25 PM
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Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Wollongong NSW
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Just picked up the July/August Sky & Space at the newsagent today.
Mark.
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