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Old 09-03-2013, 09:59 AM
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Robert,

I think calling the difference between an 8" and a 10" 'a relatively modest increase in telescope aperture' is quite misleading. We both know that a 10" collects 1.56x more light than an 8" and I wouldn't call that a modest increase - it's over half a magnitude. I accept your point about weight and volume but I also understand that often the limiting factor is width of the back seat or length of the tray in a crew-cab ute.
Sorry, AstralTraveller, I actually didn't mean in my post that the difference in light gathering power between an 8 inch and a 10 inch is modest. I had both an 8 inch and a 10 inch for years, and I well know that the jump between 8 and 10 is significant for deep sky viewing. In fact, I wouldn't recommend anything under 10 inches for viewing galaxies, as galaxies have "a certain sameness" when viewed in an 8 inch.

There are people I know who do find the 8 inch Dobs a lot more "luggable" than the 10 inch Dobs, so I guess it all depends on the person and their requirements......
for instance, now that I am an older bloke and "my back goes out more than I do", my perspective on what is a moveable telescope has changed somewhat!!

There seems to be a split between those experienced amateurs who recommend an 8 inch Dob for a beginner and those who recommend a 10 inch Dob. This indicates to me that there are arguments for both of these options.
But I don't think any of us would think much of apertures under 6 inches for general Deep Sky and Planetary viewing by beginners, except for those extremist "refractor fanatics" who regularly crop up in these forums and who insist that their 4 inch Apo Refractor is all that they need.....but then this is hardly a mainstream view!

Best Regards,
Robert

In the 1980s, I used to have a 10 inch F6 Newt in a heavy iron tube, on a beautifully machined and very heavy german equatorial mount. I cut it down to F4, so that the tube could fit on the back seat of a small car!

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Old 10-03-2013, 11:01 PM
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Robert, the choice comes down to a 7" Mak or 8" SCT if you want something easily portable for general viewing but it comes with some compromises in terms of what you can see.

If you are really interested in deep sky stuff (galaxies) you need to step up to at least a 10" ... 13" dob, though the price is size and weight.

The smaller grab 'n go refractors eg 4" f/7 are more for those who

a) only need a small travel scope to observe very specific objects or events, such as a solar/lunar eclipses where a big scope is pointless, or a comet;

b) need a scope that can travel easily, quite possibly with a car ful of family and other luggage, or by plane; and

c) invariably have a larger scope at home for the deep sky stuff.
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