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Old 01-03-2013, 11:08 AM
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I love those Geodesic dome kits, You could rotate the base on some aluminium angle on concrete.
Exactly right.
This particular one is suitable for me (right size), the only problem is there is no connectors, so the building is somewhat complicated.. it can be organised, though - there are 3 variety of spokes, that can be manufactured separately.
The cover plates (Al or galvanised steel) will add to the structural strength of the whole thing.

I am thinking along those lines because of relatively high price of the commercially available domes (like Sirius or Kiwi domes - they are ~10k for 2.3m diameter), and this is not all - you still have to have the building to mount the dome on.

That is why Astro Dome is interesting: very little else is required for the observatory, see here:
http://www.astrodomes.com/adome3000.php
But, as I mentioned earlier, it is not available at the moment
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:35 AM
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Perhaps keeping bottom of tank intact, work on top

Can keep the original base strength and have a good seal.
Have a hole for pier.
only need to strengthen the top area.
$ 750.00 for 5000L tank
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Old 01-03-2013, 11:57 AM
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I have a 3m metal Astrodome, I think it was the last one that Col manufactured.
They are very good.

A little more expensive than a tank conversion but well worth it.

Dennis if you wanted to come and have a look and get some ideas, I am in the Canberra region, feel free to contact me.

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Old 01-03-2013, 12:49 PM
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How about something like this ( see picture)
Can keep the original base strength and have a good seal.
Have a hole for pier.
only need to strengthen the top area.
You can't see anything below 45° above horizon (as per your drawing).

I still think watertank is not a good idea. Too many issues to sort out, simply because watertank is meant to be watertank and nothing else.
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Old 01-03-2013, 01:14 PM
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Thank you.

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You can't see anything below 45° above horizon (as per your drawing).

I still think watertank is not a good idea. Too many issues to sort out, simply because watertank is meant to be watertank and nothing else.

I thank you for your imput those links are really helpfull.
My location I have only Zenith to 45 Degrees due to 2 story building.
I am going to visit someone with a metal Dome and get extra ideas.
I still like the idea of the water tank though, something about it maybe because of the challenge..
And price of 5000L tank is only $750 leaving extra cash.

Thank you again.

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Old 01-03-2013, 01:40 PM
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Well, then perhaps the garden shed (with removable roof... but easier to do here than on plastic tank with no support) could be the best option for you ?

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Old 01-03-2013, 02:07 PM
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Shed Location.

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Well, then perhaps the garden shed (with removable roof... but easier to do here than on plastic tank with no support) could be the best option for you ?
I have attached some pictures provides some perspective of area.
My wife likes the look of the round tank (clean appearance).

Garden shed maybe better, but does not look as nice.
Maybe bunch of flowers might help.
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Old 01-03-2013, 02:24 PM
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Geodesic of mine: (foam triangles clad with concrete render)
http://jfbo.webs.com/observatory.htm

pros:
cheap! , practical for someone handy with basic powertools,
lightweight (one person can lift my 9ft dome, 2 very easily.
Can be torn down easily and moved. Insulates well(keeps scope , computer
cool). Traditional dome benefits of low horizon and wind off scope.
Geodesic very strong. 3 people fit inside mine easily with 12" F5 Reflector.

cons:

Insulates too well, use of fans for cool down helps this!
I wish I had made it bigger! 9ft is fine but 12 ft would be sweeeeet!
See Chris M's geodesic 2 storey.....now that is classy

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Old 01-03-2013, 02:26 PM
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I have attached some pictures provides some perspective of area.
My wife likes the look of the round tank (clean appearance).

Garden shed maybe better, but does not look as nice.
Maybe bunch of flowers might help.
How about this approach? it is half way to the full enclosure..
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...ght=water+tank
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Old 01-03-2013, 02:36 PM
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Hi Steve,
Very interesting, something like this is on my list as well!

How did you cut the triangles, did you have some sort of jig for that job?
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Old 01-03-2013, 03:42 PM
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Small astro shed a bit unconventional.

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I have attached some pictures provides some perspective of area.
My wife likes the look of the round tank (clean appearance).

Garden shed maybe better, but does not look as nice.
Maybe bunch of flowers might help.
How about this It comes with astro seat and door.


http://totalsanitationsolutions2-px....s-and-showers/


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Old 01-03-2013, 03:55 PM
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How about this It comes with astro seat and door.


http://totalsanitationsolutions2-px....s-and-showers/

Well, jjjnettie found something of thar size earlier..
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...ghlight=tardis
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Old 01-03-2013, 03:58 PM
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Internal joints.

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Geodesic of mine: (foam triangles clad with concrete render)
http://jfbo.webs.com/observatory.htm

pros:
cheap! , practical for someone handy with basic powertools,
lightweight (one person can lift my 9ft dome, 2 very easily.
Can be torn down easily and moved. Insulates well(keeps scope , computer
cool). Traditional dome benefits of low horizon and wind off scope.
Geodesic very strong. 3 people fit inside mine easily with 12" F5 Reflector.

cons:

Insulates too well, use of fans for cool down helps this!
I wish I had made it bigger! 9ft is fine but 12 ft would be sweeeeet!
See Chris M's geodesic 2 storey.....now that is classy

Steve
Hi Steve,

I like this Idea as well .

Den

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Old 01-03-2013, 04:41 PM
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Well, jjjnettie found something of thar size earlier..
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...ghlight=tardis
Bojan,

Great a little humour is good for the soul.

Your other link :
http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...ght=water+tank

With concrete footing and metal pier with small water tank cover is a lot easier for now. Perhaps a little larger tank like in my picture, I can even keep mount parked in home position. (Just add a solar vent fan)

Tank picture is 700mm diam.
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Old 01-03-2013, 05:22 PM
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I am glad its been helpful.. .
BTW, the mount fits nicely inside, and I am leaving it all the time like this.

Back on the geo-dome, this mob sells PVC hubs for geodomes relatively cheaply..
3V dome connectors (with one section more below upper half) can be purchased for ~US$500.
Not sure about structural strength, as they are made of PVC.

Of course, one has to add pipes and cover sheet material on top of that.. plus mechanism for rotation, plus convex shutter for slit, plus...

Not cheap!

So, perhaps, the other attachment is the answer...
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Old 05-01-2015, 12:48 PM
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The project has begun, Images added.

I need a telescope shed. So I decided to go ahead with my water tank idea.
I have done some work on it, but the weather is quiet warm so it may take some time. The roof will be popped off like a biscuit tin lid.
The door is almost finished.

Regards

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Old 06-01-2015, 10:25 PM
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Solar vent ventilator.

Has anyone used one of these on their telescope sheds.
(Solar vent ventilator). I am thinking of using this one on the dark round roof section in the image.
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Has anyone used one of these on their telescope sheds.
(Solar vent ventilator). I am thinking of using this one on the dark round roof section in the image.
They look interesting, I may look at this for mine. With yesterday's 44.4 deg heat, I am not sure how my setup handled the heat.
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Old 07-01-2015, 06:18 AM
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They are common in the boatng world where they are used on cabin tops to circulate air into cabins from outside or exhaust hot air - the fan blade is reversible. They don't move a lot of air but can help bring down internal temps alitte and importantly for boats they prevent moisture buildup in a closed cabin. Works best with a louvre vent located to provide across flow.
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Love it. I've often wondered, looking at those water tanks. Great project.
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