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20-05-2007, 04:30 PM
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Starcatcher
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Gerringong
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Petzza
Thanks erick, the eyepieces I have, or borrowed, I should say are Tele-Vu, I think thats spelt correctly, and a 2X barlow tube all made in Japan as they are a few years old. I have been told thats a very good brand. I'm still interested to know if if there's any difference in the optical quality, like the primary mirrors, between a Skywatcher / Saxon and a Bintel / GSO.
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Sorry, away for a couple of days. We need the eyepiece experts to step in and advise, but, depending on which range of Tele Vue eyepieces, they should be good, and, I would expect, better than the basic plossl eyepieces that will come standard with an 8" or 10" dob from most suppliers. Talk to your potential telescope suppliers - some will be really helpful. try to get to a viewing night of a club - you'll learn a lot and will be able to see for yourself what the differences are.
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25-05-2007, 10:22 PM
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Did you just moon me?
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Brisbane
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I can't get the scope to balance - is there a secret to it?
Getting it to balance is annoying me....!
Last edited by xstream; 26-05-2007 at 02:32 AM.
Reason: removed offensive language
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26-05-2007, 01:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tiger74
I can't get the scope to balance - is there a secret to it?
Getting it to balance is annoying me....!
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Need more information please, Tiger 74. My guess is that you are talking a dobsonian reflector? Doesn't balance under some conditions?? under any conditions?? With OTA horizontal? vertical?? 45 deg?? What's up top - finderscope, focuser, anything else? What is in the focuser - eyepiece, barlow? Are there friction springs on the altitude bearings? Or some other form of tensioner?
Last edited by xstream; 26-05-2007 at 02:34 AM.
Reason: removed offensive language from quote
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03-06-2007, 03:18 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Kellerberrin ,WA
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Couple of questions, do i have to use the tension springs on the Dob it moves better without them and balences ok?
I tried the milkbottle idea i read about and it moves a lot easier now, i do have a plastic type washer there already so if i put more than 1 bottle washer i get to much rocking, is it normal to have the plastic washers there i have read some people use 4 or 5 bottle washers?
My Dob has like a dust cover on the top with a small cap on it about 2.5" round that can be removed any ideas what this cap is for?round
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03-06-2007, 06:20 PM
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Sir Post a Lot!
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Gosford, NSW, Australia
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Hi Shaun.
You don't *need* the tension springs. Most people take them off or just unclip them, but if you use a very heavy eyepiece down low on the horizon you might need the spring(s).
The small cap in the dust cover is to stop the aperture down - so instead of taking the whole dust cover off, you'll only take off the camp - so instead of a 12" f/5 telescope it would become a 2.5" f/25 or something. Honestly forget about it, you'll never use it.
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03-06-2007, 07:02 PM
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Professor Chaos
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geelong
Posts: 196
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hi, i just set up my newtonian scope outside, i roughly collimated it a few days ago. i noticed while looking at venus that there is a slight "trail" of light pionting down from the planet to the lower right of my view. it's only slight, a fraction the width of the planet itself. i pointed the scope at some random stars and all stars appear to be doubles. i don't want to touch any screws unless someone can tell me what the problem is.
thanks, jarrod.
BTW, i don't own any collimation tools yet, so i can only judge the collimation by eye.
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03-06-2007, 07:48 PM
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Starcatcher
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Location: Gerringong
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Don't be shy - adjust one of the primary mirror collimation (tilt) screws a little - say half a turn (monitor which way so you can restore it) and see what happens to the image. Better? Worse? no change? You'll be learning. But invest in some collimation tools soon. If nothing else, try the 35mm film container with a hole drilled in the centre of the end, or cap. That will fit into the 1.25" holder and allow you to better centre your viewing eye on the optical axis of the focusser.
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03-06-2007, 08:48 PM
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Professor Chaos
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geelong
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thanks eric (or erick?), i adjusted the secondary a few minutes before i read your post but it worked. jupiter looks alot nicer when you can actually see the cloudbands, .
you will proberly find this a bit strange, but i've never seen mars through a telescope, what time will it be best to view it in the morning?
thanks, jarrod.
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03-06-2007, 09:38 PM
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Starcatcher
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Gerringong
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Mars - not sure, I haven't been up early with the scope or binoculars for some months! However, check when Mike Salway has been taking his Mars photos (see threads) - that would be a good time. I just checked some details for tomorrow - look like Mars rises in Melbourne around 2:40am. Sunrise around 7:30am - so let's guess 6am would be a good time. Mars seems to be at an elevation of about 40 deg, NE at that time.
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03-06-2007, 10:00 PM
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Professor Chaos
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geelong
Posts: 196
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thanks, i'll set my alarm clock. a question regarding EQ mounts, is the RA axis meant to be set for the magnetic poles or celestial poles? my EQ mount works alright when in line with the magnetic poles, but should it be lined up with the celestial poles for best results. i dont worry about incredible accuracy so ive never looked into it.
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03-06-2007, 10:24 PM
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I know nothing about EQ mounts, but you certainly need to point to the South Celestial Pole, rather than South Magnetic Pole.
For Melbourne, the South Pole is 11 deg East of magnetic south. So, when facing towards magnetic south, the South Pole is 11 deg to the East (your left hand). (Sorry if that is too simplistic, but I keep forgetting it myself - is it to the left or to the right???).
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03-06-2007, 10:30 PM
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Professor Chaos
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geelong
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thanks, i'll try that out.
i feel silly now .
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03-06-2007, 10:33 PM
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Starcatcher
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Gerringong
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jarrod
i feel silly now .
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join the club! we've all got stupid stories to tell - did I tell you about my finderscope where I've dropped the eyepiece lenses in a pile and don't know what orientation they should be in...................duh!
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04-06-2007, 04:10 PM
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Professor Chaos
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Join Date: May 2007
Location: Geelong
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yeah i read about that. we do learn from these experiences though, so a suppose that makes it worthwhile.
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06-06-2007, 12:22 AM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: INVERLEIGH
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Total Novice!!
Hello
I am a total newbie to astronomy and quite green! I have purchased an 8" Skywatcher Dobsonian which came with the two standard eyepieces.I have bought a few magazines and am reading everything I can come across(so am now totally whacked with info I cant take in!).
I have been to an Astronomical Society a few times and they have been very friendly and helpful thus my purchasing this scope. I have had some spinal ops and find it hard to use the finderscope.I have looked at both the Telrad and the Red Dot Finder and would like to ask what would be the best one to buy? I have trouble bending my neck fully to the side so wondered if it was possible to buy a 90deg angled finder that I could look straight into??
I thought I would get comfortable at home for a couple of months and then venture back to the club.I would also like to ask how people adapt wheels etc to the base of the Dobs for ease of movement etc. as I have to get down stairs at home to take it out.
Sorry for the long epic,but any help would be very appreciated.
Cheers
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06-06-2007, 09:34 AM
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Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Gerringong
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Hi Flearosie - Welcome!
Yes, you can buy FinderScopes with a right angle at the eyepiece.
There are lots - look at Bintel's website under FinderScopes:-
https://www.bintelshop.com.au/welcome.htm
Both the Telrad and Red Dot finders don't solve the problem of having to get directly behind them to look at the sky.
Eric
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06-06-2007, 11:27 AM
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Hapkido = Pain
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Join Date: May 2005
Location: Newcastle NSW
Posts: 1,014
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Hi flearosie
I have the same size scope as you and I just use a trolly bought from super cheat auto for $22.00 and I use luggage straps to hold it in place when im moving it around. I have a crook back and I find this way of transporting the scope around the yard or viewing site very easy.
Gazz
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07-06-2007, 11:22 PM
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Join Date: Apr 2007
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Hi Eric
Thanks so much for the info. I have looked at the Bintel site and they have 2 right angled finderscopes - their own 8x50 and an Orion 6x30mm both for the same price. Do I need to buy the new individual bracket for it or will the orig Skywatcher one adapt? I would rather save up and buy a better quality from the start,so just wondering if these are both ok quality?
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07-06-2007, 11:38 PM
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The 'DRAGON MAN'
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Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: In the Dark at Snake Valley, Victoria
Posts: 14,412
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The Bintel marked 90 degree finder will fit straight into your finder bracket. Not sure about the Orion one, but you can ask Bintel. Plus the 8x50 finder is a good size for a finder.
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09-06-2007, 01:24 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Blackmans Bay, Tasmania
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G'day!
I'm new to the site, and astronomy. Have been lurking on the site for a while and finally decided to post. I was looking to buy a telescope, but saw a lot of you recommending binoculars for a newbie as the first point of call in light gathering equipment.
I can tell you I'm not disappointed! I went out last night with my AOE 9x60 binoculars and was amazed to see stars which I couldn't see with the naked eye in suburban Melbourne.
Terrific site you have here.
Cheers,
Mark
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