Actual unlimited internet access for Aus at last ?

lacad01 (Adam) · #1 15-02-2010, 11:16 AM

This is by no means a plug for the company spruiking this deal but at long last a plan that doesn't have any caps, throttling, limit, etc. Will probabaly be locale specific and the catch is a 24mth contract...
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum....cfm?t=1384995
Hope the other ISP's follow suit...

wasyoungonce (Brendan) · #2 15-02-2010, 01:53 PM

Yeah..well..I'm on a RIM so..."no ADSL2+ for me"...thanks Telstra for that!

Starkler (Geoff) · #3 15-02-2010, 02:33 PM

I get 120gb adsl2 speed and then 512k throttled for $49.95/month

Considering 512k is what I was paying the same price for a couple of years ago, thats as good as unlimited to me.

$99/month on 2 year contract? Not for me.

Octane (Humayun) · #4 15-02-2010, 02:52 PM

On a RIM, too.

Paying more for ADSL than the equivalent ADSL2+ plan.

Broadband in Australia is narrowband.

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TrevorW · #5 15-02-2010, 03:09 PM

We are being ripped off in the country for broadband/telephone/mobile usage

Consider my telecommunciation bill before the Iternet and mobile use to be around $30 a month now $160 a month

look at this

http://www.billshrink.com/blog/inter...tration-costs/

click on map fro larger view Japan is fastest and cheapest, we rate poorly

leinad (Dan) · #6 15-02-2010, 03:23 PM

Other ISP's just can't do it. The internal bandwidth costs and are too great and margins are too small.

AAPT have a solid network so I can see them doing it for s short term only. I'll give it 6 months before they turn around and drop the plan, and all customers get put onto a Peak-OffPeak plan again.

Time will tell. I see this more as a marketing strategy against iiNet's court case win to win over consumers.

Starkler (Geoff) · #7 15-02-2010, 03:30 PM

Everyone else who has tried unlimited has had their network swamped by leechers climbing aboard and overloading the network slowing everyone else to a crawl. I certainly wouldnt want to be the first to sign on and find the service quickly turns to rubbish.

If tempted by their offer I would suggest waiting a few months and see what the feedback is.

Octane (Humayun) · #8 15-02-2010, 03:31 PM

This might also have something to do with the mandatory Internet filter (boo). I guess it might have a load of BitTorrent sites blacklisted.

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leinad (Dan) · #9 15-02-2010, 06:17 PM

Well well. Here's the catch fellas.

http://www.computerworld.com.au/arti...t/?fp=2&fpid=1

Quote: "Despite being ‘unlimited’, Broad said AAPT would apply a fair use policy to the offering in order to minimise both abuse of the network and the illegal downloading of content."

Wonder what happens when your kids download 2-3 movies, you receive the copyright warnings that your account has been terminated due to SOA violations, and you pay out the remaining contract payments.

Or, they monitor how much torrent traffic exists on residential connections and throttle it, or wham block it.
Not happy?; pay out the contract termination costs and go elsewhere.

Who really needs unlimited connectivity anyway for legitimate reasons?

I think AAPT are playing a very clever and sneaky card here.
Have to wait and see what happens.

wasyoungonce (Brendan) · #10 15-02-2010, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by leinad

Wonder what happens when your kids download 2-3 movies, you receive the copyright warnings that your account has been terminated due to SOA violations, and you pay out the remaining contract payments.

Not a current problem since iiNet won their case.

but yes...me thinks AAPT are possibly planning years ahead with deals like this where as the consumer is really just looking at the "current" best deal.

leinad (Dan) · #11 15-02-2010, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wasyoungonce

Not a current problem since iiNet won their case.

but yes...me thinks AAPT are possibly planning years ahead with deals like this where as the consumer is really just looking at the "current" best deal.

.. that's exactly why this is a clever marketing plan for AAPT.
People think because iinet won it's court case, that it's Ok to go ahead and download movies and music from torrent sites? Unlimited BB, oh yeah!
Seriously what are you going to do with Unlimited Broadband besides download torrents ?

iiNet's policies on handling copyright infringements is not the same as another ISP's.
I believe iiNet may either play hard and offer the same promo Unlimited special, or wait till the smoke clears.
I'll be waiting to see what happens with these plans/pricing after May.

Louwai (Bryan) · #12 15-02-2010, 07:13 PM

I have an ADSL2+ "50 gig limit" account with TPG.
BUT, when I log into my acc to check the usage, it just says "Unlimited", & there is no usage recorded.

As well as having 3 personal pc's connected, I also operate an import bussness from home. I am always downloading product catalogues from international maufacturers, + I am constantly on SKYPE to international suppliers + I have 4 x VOIP ph number operating as well.

To date I have not had a "shaping" or reduction of service

Bundled with my TPG internet is my TPG mobile with $300 / mth credit.
The internet acc + my mob costs me $60/mth, total. (VOIP call costs extra)

Due to there being no record of my acc usage made available to me (and I haven't asked for it) I don't really know what my mthly usage is. I can only assume that from the above described activity the usage would be fairly substantial.
No complaints about the service to date.

wasyoungonce (Brendan) · #13 15-02-2010, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by leinad

.. that's exactly why this is a clever marketing plan for AAPT.

Ahhh good point indeed!

Jen · #14 15-02-2010, 11:52 PM

yay its about time i think we pay way too much for internet usage

hulloleeds · #15 16-02-2010, 12:05 AM

Anybody who is not a leech and does not quite know what is what with internet usage would be wise to stay away from this plan. For one thing, $100 buys you ALOT of quota elsewhere, anyway. This is coming from a leech, himself.

This is not the beginning of unlimited in this country. It is another foray into territory that will quickly be rebutted by people's unrepentent tendency to "go too far". To be honest, were I on this service, I would wastefully use it, too.

Before long, this service will be brought to its knees by overselling or successively restrictive .. restrictions, bringing it back in line with the rest of the pack. ISP's are very quick to realise that the high end users are subsidising the average customer - it doesn't take a rocket scientist to see the dollar signs when you think about getting rid of those high volume users, after a few months (and generally, an ISP contract says they can change the terms of the deal completely - all they have to do is give you an opt-out when they do).

Think of it like this, why do companies offer "cashback" schemes? Strangely, it's because some people actually don't bother getting their cash back. It's that type of logic that breeds this type of plan. Sucker them all in and then pull back on your promises, sure, some will go, but at no real cost to you - you've gained customers.

There have been unlimited plans popping up, from time to time for years, many years, infact. Optus used to have a system (netstats) whereby you were warned if you used ten times the average quota of your area. That went out the window.

You get what you pay for.

Octane (Humayun) · #16 16-02-2010, 12:07 AM

hulloleeds,

I remember Netstats. Reached 9.9 just before I went away on holidays once.

That was the best and fairest system thus far.

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hulloleeds · #17 16-02-2010, 12:20 AM

It was great. We'll never see it again, though. Not that way. Even when you were pushing it, they were friendly.

(Though I don't generally find myself complaining about 150+ gig plans, either, really)

I would rather pay for X amount of quota than get involved in another murky waters unlimited plan.

mswhin63 (Malcolm) · #18 16-02-2010, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by wasyoungonce

Yeah..well..I'm on a RIM so..."no ADSL2+ for me"...thanks Telstra for that!

Same here, really annoying. Can port to another provider but still get a Telstra product too (Unreliable)

wasyoungonce (Brendan) · #19 16-02-2010, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mswhin63

Same here, really annoying. Can port to another provider but still get a Telstra product too (Unreliable)

We have a RIM & there is no alternate path. I moved into our estate back in 2001 and the RIM was at dial up speeds of 28K!

I campaigned Telstra & did letterbox drops to get interest & finally after a few years of coercion I got Telstra to install a minimux for ADSL (not all RIMS can be upgraded).

They only installed one...so we only have 48 ADSL ports for an estate of around 400 houses (not a large estate). They can install another minimux to give 96 ports...but they won't.

Shameful really! So the majority of consumers miss out and are on 28K dial up...and it's 2010! What a ridiculous situation.