Apollo Astronaut Confirms Existence of ET

matt · #1 24-07-2008, 07:47 PM

Or has someone spiked Ed Mitchell's drink?

http://www.news.com.au/couriermail/s...013016,00.html

mick pinner · #2 24-07-2008, 07:51 PM

maybe someone should slip his medication into that drink.

Kevnool (Kev) · #3 24-07-2008, 08:07 PM

this poor fella has space dimentia .

TrevorW · #4 24-07-2008, 08:14 PM

:drink :

gmbfilter (Geoff) · #5 24-07-2008, 08:26 PM

More medication, that's the answer

AlexN · #6 24-07-2008, 08:28 PM

Can anyone say L S D ?

On a more serious note however, theres no reason to believe his claims to be false or true really.. its his word against that of the exact agencies that he claims are/have been covering it up...

I personally believe there HAS to be something else out there, of equal or greater intelligence to ourselves. The universe is a ridiculously large place, and to think its all just for us is perhaps a bit narrow minded...

Something tells me however that the little grey men flying faster than light to travel such extensive distances have better things to do that crash land in new mexico...

matt · #7 24-07-2008, 08:30 PM

That's all fair and reasonable, Alex.

TrevorW · #8 24-07-2008, 09:02 PM

[quote=AlexN;348195]Can anyone say L S D ?

I personally believe there HAS to be something else out there, of equal or greater intelligence to ourselves. The universe is a ridiculously large place, and to think its all just for us is perhaps a bit narrow minded...

More like arrogance to me, if relativity hold true and the spped of light is a maxim then whoever they are are in the same boat as us.

Matty P (Matt) · #9 24-07-2008, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlexN

Can anyone say L S D ?

On a more serious note however, theres no reason to believe his claims to be false or true really.. its his word against that of the exact agencies that he claims are/have been covering it up...

I personally believe there HAS to be something else out there, of equal or greater intelligence to ourselves. The universe is a ridiculously large place, and to think its all just for us is perhaps a bit narrow minded...

Something tells me however that the little grey men flying faster than light to travel such extensive distances have better things to do that crash land in new mexico...

You couldn't put it any better Alex.

It is really hard to believe that we are alone in the universe.

cookie8 (Vincent) · #10 24-07-2008, 09:28 PM

According to a 2005 poll by Reader's Digest, 80% of the Australian general public believe aliens exist & 67% believe they have visited Earth. I am always interested to know how many of us within this forum(4000 plus people) believe in them. Can someone starts a poll here? We are the ones who spend most time looking up afterall.

ngcles · #11 24-07-2008, 09:33 PM

Hi All,

Dear oh dear oh dear ...

I heard the interview with Dr Ed Mitchell this afternoon:

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...001021,00.html

and (as usual) it offers no actual proof at all for the LGM.

NASA deny they are covering it up. Their denials are of course taken as convincing proof that they are in fact covering it up. If the governments of the world had convincing proof of the LGM they'd offer it up -- I'm certain, why wouldn't they? Can anyone come up with one really good reason why it would be hushed up? Given the lack of ability of governments of all persuasions to keep anything secret (even their most important military secrets), how was this, the biggest of all secrets, kept secret -- assuming it really is a secret.

NASA has an awful lot to gain in terms of budget and justification for their space and astronomy programmes if the LGM had been here and they could prove it. Why don't they offer the proof and claim the (massive) budget increase I wonder?

Because the proof, and I mean proof does not exist. It is all opinion, conjecture and the "eye-witness accounts" of these lonely, isolated individuals who claim to have been abducted, experimented on and been to Zeta Reticulii for a quick weekend away or video of saucers lurching drunkenly across the sky.

How did these guys cross 100s of light-years to come here if they can't make their "flying saucers" hover in one spot? Helicopters and military jets can do it, why can't such an advanced race make a space ship that will hover and keep still? Are their pilots all on the turps? These accounts do not constitute proof I'm sorry -- not in my books.

That is not to say there is no chance that intelligent life does not exist somewhere else in the Cosmos. I'd have to concede there is a chance of that -- but a slim one I think but its possible.

Nobody put it better than that great Italian Physicist Enrico Fermi who responded to the UFO/LGM/prolific intelligent life question (in essence -- this is not a direct quote) "Well where are they? Show me them! Sorry, like Enrico Fermi, until I have convincing scientifically based, verifiable proof, I will remain a 100% sceptic that we have been "visited" -- or indeed that there are a host of other civilisations out there in the Universe.

Perhaps Ed should start writing for this mob of silly sausages:

http://www.ufologistmagazine.com/

Best,

Les D

Screwdriverone (Chris) · #12 24-07-2008, 10:11 PM

Hmmm, longest ever moon walk at 9 hours 17 minutes hey?

Can anyone spell "radiation poisoning"?

Nut Job. Gotta love the quote " Reading the papers recently, it's been happening quite a bit."

The National Enquirer said it was true so there!

Cheers

Chris

astroron (Ron) · #13 24-07-2008, 10:12 PM

He said nothing new! UFO nuts have been saying the same stuff for the last 60 years.
Just because he went to the Moon does not give him anymore credibility than any other UFO reporter.
Ron

AlexN · #14 24-07-2008, 10:18 PM

Les. Whilst opinions are free and everyone has one, for someone who spends alot of time looking at other galaxies, and knowing how many planets are within our own galaxy... don't you think there is more than a 'slim' chance, that quite a few of the thousands of other galaxies out there have planets, and that a fair few of them would be able to sustain life, and of that few, at least a couple WOULD sustain life... It seems incredibly likely to me...

On the topic of "why would they cover it up"

A few reasons..
1 - world wide mass hysteria. The majority of humans are somewhat naturally fearful of the unknown, if you were to tell them that 'the unknown' were technologically superior to us, could travel across the expanse of the universe and had something of an interest in our planet for whatever reason...

2 - Religious denunciation. At least a few people probably wouldn't take nicely to relative proof of other life, hence denouncing the belief structure of more than a few religions...

They both seem perhaps a bit far fetched, but its late, i've been at work too long today, i really need to get home, and have a coffee... I'm somewhat sure that if a secret was ever going to be kept, NASA and their corresponding political backers would be up to the task...

I am however with you on the fact that the videos and stories of abductions are a load of crap, most of the videos can be explained/have been doctored...

Crop circles - eh... take them with a grain of salt.. That most recent one was fairly impressive how it depicted Pi in a circular pictograph. but IMHO - elaborate fake.

The idea of other life to me seems only natural. The idea that they come here and poke and prod at humans. thats a load of crap...

EDIT : Good to see you Ron!

Screwdriverone (Chris) · #15 24-07-2008, 10:19 PM

Oh and one more thing!

If we have been to the moon, and can send and land probes on Mars and Venus and flyby Mercury etc, WHY OH WHY OH WHY when even JAPAN can send a probe around the moon with HD cameras etc to map it in the greatest detail EVER......

CANT WE FIND ANY VISIBLE PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE OF THE MOON LANDING EQUIPMENT OR TRACKS LEFT BY MOON BUGGIES THAT DROVE ALL OVER THE PLACE?

It seems a little too convenient that even when NASA, ESA and Japan can spend HALF A BILLION in technology to send the bits and pieces all over the Solar System and to Lunar Orbit and do all this cool stuff, they just so happen to only have fitted a BOX BROWNIE camera that can only resolve to items BIGGER than 10 metres .......... so sorry, because all the moon landing stuff is smaller than that, no chance of a pic, sorry. - ooops, must have had the work experience kid fitting the camera that day.......

If we want to talk cover ups and conspiracies....doesnt this sound just a little too convenient?????????

Ponder that for a bit.

Chris

Screwdriverone (Chris) · #16 24-07-2008, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ngcles

Hi All,

Dear oh dear oh dear ...

I heard the interview with Dr Ed Mitchell this afternoon:

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegrap...001021,00.html

and (as usual) it offers no actual proof at all for the LGM.

Les D

Oh MY GOD Les,

Ving has captured photographic evidence of LGM's in his front YARD!!!!!

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH run for the hills!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers

Chris

Sgtfretsurfer · #17 24-07-2008, 10:34 PM

this is an exert from a rant i had a while back now on this same topic.

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...t=16004&page=2

"Start with the obvious basics, think about how big the universe is, how many planets there must be, how insignificant we are as a little dot inside a little galaxy swinging in a spiral of millions of other galaxies. Visualize yourself looking down upon millions of galaxies, picture in your head what it would look like. Then ask yourself – if all life exists on a single, insignificantly small rock orbiting inside a galaxy which can barely be differentiated from the millions of other galaxies around… then what is the rest of it for?? Wait maybe that’s too deep for now…

I think that maybe people get too hung up on the idea of aliens visiting earth. Especially when it comes to how! With out current collective body of scientific facts, we have absolutely no idea how it would be possible for aliens to travel great distances through space. Maybe we are (as always) limited by the parameters of our science! Maybe one day as our science grows we will understand. I’m certainly not ruling it out as impossible in the mean time. Maybe; there’s too many maybes hey. Maybe they have, maybe they haven’t. You certainly cant prove it either way, even if u saw it and video taped it. Does it really mater if they have come to earth or not? Even if they never had, I would still reason their existence."

Time to think beyond

madtuna (Steve) · #18 24-07-2008, 10:52 PM

I may have miss read you...are you saying we didn't land on the moon???

Please don't tell me the chunk of heat shield from the Apollo 11 re-entry module sitting on my desk I risked arrest and deportation to steal isn't a fake.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Screwdriverone

Oh and one more thing!

If we have been to the moon, and can send and land probes on Mars and Venus and flyby Mercury etc, WHY OH WHY OH WHY when even JAPAN can send a probe around the moon with HD cameras etc to map it in the greatest detail EVER......

CANT WE FIND ANY VISIBLE PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE OF THE MOON LANDING EQUIPMENT OR TRACKS LEFT BY A MOON BUGGIES THAT DROVE ALL OVER THE PLACE?

It seems a little too convenient that even when NASA, ESA and Japan can spend HALF A BILLION in technology to send the bits and pieces all over the Solar System and to Lunar Orbit and do all this cool stuff, they just so happen to only have fitted a BOX BROWNIE camera that can only resolve to items BIGGER than 10 metres .......... so sorry, because all the moon landing stuff is smaller than that, no chance of a pic, sorry. - ooops, must have had the work experience kid fitting the camera that day.......

If we want to talk cover ups and conspiracies....doesnt this sound just a little too convenient?????????

Ponder that for a bit.

Chris

AlexN · #19 24-07-2008, 11:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by madtuna

Please don't tell me the chunk of heat shield from the Apollo 11 re-entry module sitting on my desk I risked arrest and deportation to steal isn't a fake.

Pics! Now!

Screwdriverone (Chris) · #20 24-07-2008, 11:28 PM

Hi Steve,

No, I didnt say that we didnt land on the moon, but Apollo 11 heatshield chunk does not a Moon landing make.....

Doesnt it seem a little strange that noone in history has ever taken any pictures of the moon landing sites and the hardware etc from orbit or from earth?

I might be wrong, but my point is that if Kaguya cant see the Apollo landing sites, couldnt Hubble? or something else? Why cant any shots be taken of this gear, we know where it is dont we? and a moon buggy tracking all over the moon surface for miles would surely leave tracks that while they may not be 10 metres in width, would certainly be more than 10 metres in length and therefore visible to a camera that can record details such as that.
And even if the resolution is no bigger than 10 metres, you may not get very many details of what is there, but you should get an idea that something IS there. Especially when the sun's light at low altitude could cast a shadow MUCH longer than 10 metres. That would be able to be recorded....

Therefore.....why no photos from Kaguya of the Apollo Landing sites? It certainly would shut up a lot of people if they could prove it. Including me. I believe that we went there and landed there but it smells funny when I hear things like "gosh darn it, that billion dollar camera we sent up there just cant see things that small, golly, sorry about that"

That's my point.

Chris