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Old 15-10-2010, 06:18 PM
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However, the relaxation oscillator model we are discussing here, albeit being interesting as an alternative speculation as a first preliminary candidate, if considered in more details from astrophysical aspect, can't explain the observed behaviour of pulsars.

The first problems (not only issues..) encountered are as follows:
- power (how? from where? how the current is channelled (there are no isolated wires in space)? mind you, this is NOT a simple schematic of neon tube oscillator - it is an object the size of Earth-Moon system maximum).
Yes there are isolated wires in space, this has been known for 100 years. Birkeland Currents. As ionised particles flow, they will group (marklund convection) and form filaments. With our space probes we have detected large currents transferring between Saturn and it's moons, jupiter and it's moons, the sun and earth (auroras). The currents are there, they flow in filaments (or wires) and have been directly measured.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...29currents.jpg
(that is a NASA THEMIS produced image)

The power in the ES model is delivered to the pulsar system from the galactic current sheet, this is an extension from Alven's model.

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- Capacitor (again.. where is it? formed from what? it must be very solid in terms of mechanical structure because the frequency of proposed circuit is linearly proportional to capacitor's value. The same applies for resistor (or current value.. it must be VERY stable over long time periods to explain fr. stability)
Plasma double layers store this energy, the e-field builds up then discharges through a required non-linear resistor

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- discharge element ( discharge is very chaotic and hardly repeatable process... ) what is the mechanics (or physics) of it? Where is it located?
In this case it is hypothesized that the plasma (non-linear resistor) discharge takes place between both capacitors (double layers) of each body.
http://lh5.ggpht.com/_KzR8on8Tdmw/SiMnJd104vI/AAAAAAAAEyc/6L_whV3rTlI/s400/PlasmaDischargesDiagram(GoodQuality ).jpg

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- subjectiveness to noise - any small disturbance (outside and/or inside) will be VERY detectable in frequency change or pulse phase shift.
Bojan this is a direct and natural prediction of the ES and particularly the Pulsar model, although stability can be formed the pulsar is at the mercy of the electrical environment.

See Craigs ITN on pulsar variability and "magnetar outbursts". The electric model also predicts complete spectral changes in stars, as the star (lightbulb) is at the mercy of the electrical environment.

in short:
Relaxation Oscillator: Current supply (Birkeland Current) charging a capacitor (Double Layer), Double Layer arcs over non linear resistor (plasma), FLASH (arc mode discharge), repeat.

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Old 15-10-2010, 06:56 PM
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And I'm not buying any of it.
No calculation, no predictions whatsoever. Frequency stability is nowhere near observed values.
I must say again, all this is just pure fantasy, nothing else.

BTW, what is the (calculated) size of this "relaxation oscillator" of yours?
What is the power output? radiation spectrum?
I don't want to talk about those things without numbers.
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