Big Bang in trouble?

[xelasnave]

Originally Posted by bojan

Alex, some food for thought...
try Google "Casimir effect" .....

Thanks Bojan...I have read a bit about it some time ago and I suspect you would think that it would dash my hopes of completing the construction of the push Universe however quiet the contrary... and as usual it supports the push concept for me..

I know you will say it is an opportunity to call into question all I believe but I see the effect arising from two objects being so close that they are held by the flow having to go around them and thus pushed to hold that situation.

I will have another look but if you see a specific point of relevance that you think I may not have taken on board please let me know...

alex

[xelasnave]

I lifted this......

"The Casimir force, recently measured with high accuracy by S. K. Lamoreaux at the University of Washington, derives from partial shielding of the interior region of the plates from the background zero-point fluctuations of the vacuum electromagnetic field.

As shown by Los Alamos theorist Milonni and his colleagues, this shielding results in the plates being pushed together by the unbalanced ZPE radiation pressures. The result is a corollary conversion of vacuum energy to some other form such as heat."....end of lift...

I dont buy the zero point energy ( the ZPE reference) thing either but I like the rest of it because they use that word I like so much...push... it is such a lonely word when you think about it..there are no others that says the same... we have lamb , sheep , mutton to describer a beast but there is only one word to describe push and that is...er push..there are not others... is that not curious.. there is no synonym for it...

All I say is we can not at this stage measure the radiation pressure of which I go on about there is no question about that ...but this zero point energy thing is only trying to fit this possibility into the current thinking and give a "point" source for the energy all say is not really there... confusing yes if you fail to admit that the old concept of an eather was to a degree correct... however it was thrown out ..old hat.. but it points in the right direction if you consider it is not static but "flows" at C.


I am now reading all the links from a goggle of casmir to bring myself up to date with it and although not much is actually about what I went looking for it is all neat stuff anyways.
alex

[xelasnave]

another lift...

According to the theory the total zero point energy in the vacuum is infinite when summed over all the possible photon modes. The Casimir effect comes from a difference of energies in which the infinities cancel. The energy of the vacuum is a puzzle in theories of quantum gravity since it should act gravitationally and produce a large cosmological constant which would cause space-time to curl up. The solution to the inconsistency is expected to be found in a theory of quantum gravity.

end of lift.... (cut and paste but lift is short and I love to be brief)

What is he saying for goodness sake??


I say this... the effect is simple to explain in the context of an aether, a flow, a universal pressure.... it is no big deal really...the push of energy"if you like that term..or the push of particles explains it nicely.

two sticks floating in a fast flowing stream ..when they come together the flow of the stream hold them in place together... they can be separated but staying together is what the flow of the water will cause them to do... space is a flow ..a flow of everything ..just because we cant measure it yet does not detract from the logic... and so anything real close is pushed together ... it is so simple in principle...in my universe that is but we see that things attract..they do not ..they are pushed together by their proximity and mutual shielding effect one upon the other...or so I believe.

alex