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Old 10-08-2005, 09:59 PM
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If thats the case BD, why do Bintel supply gs plossls in their package and not 500s.(or do they,who purchased from Bintel?)
Surely the gs factory wouldnt ship varying eps with different orders.
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:04 PM
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Why wouldn't they, if that's what their customer wants? It probably means that Lee pays a bit less for his scopes than Bintel do for theirs.
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:09 PM
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Steve,
No tulips, just called 'zoom'. All it does is pixelate and make the pic worse!

Wadda ya expect for $120
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:14 PM
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All I remember Lee telling me was that GS ship the scopes with the series 500's as standard, and that he orders the GS EP's as accessories.

When I bought mine he said he has stopped replacing the s500's with GS EP's cause it was starting to cost him money and he has trouble selling the s500's on their own.

Alarm bells should've gone off then but I didn't know the difference!!
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:26 PM
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.....he has trouble selling the s500's on their own.
The prosecution rests its case !

I got my scope two years ago and although mine are labelled differently, they are identical to the s500's in the photos posted here.

When I have seen gso scopes sold elsewhere like from US dealers, they invariably get supplied with 9 and 25mm gso plossls. I suspect that Andrews deletes that factory option and substitutes cheaper s500's to give a greater price advantage.
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Old 10-08-2005, 10:32 PM
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That's business but it doesn't help us 'the buyers'
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Lee was offering the 2 standard 9mm and 25mm gs plossls and 2 "bonus" S500s with scopes, but mine arrived with 4 absolutely useless S500s.
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I agree Starkler , anybody being recommended to buy a gs dob should be told to turn down the S500s
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, anybody being recommended to buy a gs dob should be told to turn down the S500s
Im in 100% agreement there. Hopefully Lee will get the message if enough people make a noise about them and he'll stop trying to flog off those godawful rubbish eyepieces.
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Lee occasionally reads these forums. He also knows we send people to him.

If he keeps supplying crummy EP's we can always recommend Bintel instead.
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:12 PM
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I wish I did own one of these 500s! So I can mash it flat with a big hammer take a pic of it, then send the pic to Mr. Andrews..
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:18 PM
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Hehehe! I feel like that some nights. My GS 9mm & GS 2" SuperView are magic, my GS 2" 2x Barlow is fairly good but my s500's get me frustrated and make me want to pack up and go back inside.

Are far as my scopes mediocre performance goes, I can only put it down to the s500's.
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:35 PM
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I have 2 crappy EPs that came with my refractor. Nothing at all written on them though except for the size, so I don't know what they are. On axis they produce stunning images of jupiter...real contrasty, crisp excellent! But they throw out like a lens flare around jupiter.....like a ring of light, only it's not perfectly round, kind of a random shaped ring of light. Off axis their RS! Turns jupiter into a comet. When you look to see the coatings on the lenses...I can't see any coatings at all....the lenses look clear to me.
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Old 10-08-2005, 11:40 PM
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Might be just cheap mass-produced items to flog off to the unwary. Dork Smith EP's are a bit like that. I remember someone in here saying that Dork Smith plossls are better than the huygenians they used to supply.

But cheapos will always be around. They sell millions of them.
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I may give one the 5 LB hammer treatment & pass the pic off as a 500 then!!
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Heh, when I first got my dob with 4 series 500s I said that they were crappy compared to the GS Plossls I already had and people argued with me. Now look what has happened.
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