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Old 08-05-2018, 09:02 PM
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Tim, I notice you are using adaptive optics on a 20 inch scope. We would love to piggy-back on your expertise.

What AOX are you using? Is it a thing that you buy and put in the image train, or is it that the STX16803 can self-guide at that speed? What difference do you get in FWHM? How often do you get a guide star that gives you 8 frames a second? Is it different for the Milky Way versus somewhere around Cetus for example?

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Old 08-05-2018, 09:28 PM
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Hi All,
I have been working on getting more of the outer halo in to the image without losing the core detail.....I posted a version 2... a repro for comparison....how much power we have with processing to do good ...or bad.....!

Maybe this is bad.....
https://savannahskies.smugmug.com/Nebula/i-fBwH2Kw/A


Let me know...thanks!



Hi Mike,
Yes with my 0.39arcsec/pixel image scale, I have found the Adaptive Optics guiding helps my system significantly, especially as I still have a bit of residual hysteresis in the Dec axis on the PME2, that I have not been able yet to adjust out with adjustment of the spring plungers or worm block adjustments. I haven't formally tested the reduction in FWHMs yet though I do notice much better FWHMs in general - each night gives a slightly different FWHM and everything I do is automated through the night - since I have returned to using an AO.....I had to swap back from a FLI PL16803 to the STX16803 to get the AO again (I had enjoyed using a AOL with a STL11000 with the same scope on a PME back a few years ago).
It is the AO-X: http://diffractionlimited.com/product/ao-x/

A photo of my imaging train is attached showing the red AO-X in front of the off-axis guider which is in turn in front of the big black filter wheel in front of the STX.

I sometimes have to settle for a guide star that gives 3 to 4 Hz, but if I can get a guide star of better than mag 10.7, I usually find the AO guiding works well. I have a camera rotator, of course to rotate the FOV to hopefully get a bright enough guide star. Only occasionally I can't get a target with a guide star - usually in a sparse star field around a galaxy....

Cheers,
Tim
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Old 08-05-2018, 10:11 PM
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Tim, the new version is gorgeous. More outer envelope, but still the astonishingly sharp detail in the bright core. An image to be very proud of.

Thanks also for the explanation about the AOX.

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Old 08-05-2018, 10:18 PM
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Thanks very much Mike. After staring at the same image for ages, I can lose perspective.

If you would like to discuss the AO or anything else just send me a PM on IIS.

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Tim
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Old 09-05-2018, 07:13 AM
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Ah yes a nice improvement. Its now a feature without wrecking the background areas etc.

Nicely done.

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Old 09-05-2018, 11:04 AM
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Ah yes a nice improvement. Its now a feature without wrecking the background areas etc.

Nicely done.
A big from me too.
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Old 09-05-2018, 07:38 PM
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Hi Greg and Rick,
Thanks very much for looking and commenting. Much appreciated.
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Excellent Tim
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Old 13-05-2018, 04:43 PM
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Wow thanks for sharing. Extra info on collection and equipment very interesting too.

Glad to see Savannah Skies is performing so well for you too - must be very satisfying after what must have been lots of work to get set up properly. Beautiful part of the world - visited the Undara lava tubes on the way back from the eclipse some years ago and realised should have made the effort to go west off the tableland years ago.
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Old 13-05-2018, 05:31 PM
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Hi Rob,
Thanks very much!
Yes, West of the Tablelands is very special....very different to the rest of Far North QLD.
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Old 13-05-2018, 08:36 PM
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Wow...that extra NB data raises the bar significantly....the delicate outer shells give the object depth and complexity.

I really like the new version.

Dare I say, it sets a new gold standard for others to aim for.

Fabulous stuff !

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My experience with the AO-X is very similar. It’s a great piece of kit
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Old 13-05-2018, 09:49 PM
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Wow!
Beautiful image, Tim.
Detail in the nebula is really impressive indeed.
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Old 14-05-2018, 10:16 AM
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Wow...that extra NB data raises the bar significantly....the delicate outer shells give the object depth and complexity.

I really like the new version.

Dare I say, it sets a new gold standard for others to aim for.

Fabulous stuff !

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My experience with the AO-X is very similar. It’s a great piece of kit
I agree completely Peter about the AO-X!!
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Old 14-05-2018, 10:16 AM
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Thanks very much David!
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Old 14-05-2018, 02:05 PM
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Love the repro Tim, great detail on the outer shell now.
It's probably nitpicking but the centre highlights look a little flat
As said above, a top shelf image
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Old 14-05-2018, 08:40 PM
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Thanks very much Andy.
I appreciate your opinion and will look at the intensity of the central highlights.
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