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Someone posted that the victims faced was shown, but the perpetrators were pixelated.......this pretty somes it all up.... Our priorities are skewed.
Ever heard of Lynch Mobs? Given some of the views expressed on this thread, is it not understandable why this approach has been adopted?
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Old 20-06-2013, 09:54 AM
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Because lynchings are a common occurrence in 21st century Australia....
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Old 20-06-2013, 10:30 AM
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Lynching is illegal but public flogging still occurs in some places eg: Singapore (do they still do)

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Old 20-06-2013, 10:34 AM
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Because lynchings are a common occurrence in 21st century Australia....
Not quite grasped the principle there have you?
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Old 20-06-2013, 10:58 AM
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I saw your metaphor, but chose to ignore it....

Actually a few roaming lynch mobs could do this country a favour - anyone else on board?
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Old 20-06-2013, 11:20 AM
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I commute by train every day the problem is there are regulations and rules when riding on a train that are displayed all over a train but people ignore

eg: playing loud music
consuming food and drink
school kids occupying seat while adults stand

now we have transit guards but they are never on the train during peak hrs but instead stand around on station platform in groups of up to four waiting for something to happen @ a station or apprehend someone who gets off a train who has been reported as causing a problem on the train

Like the police being seen if often a deterrence unfortunately these people who our taxes pay for are being underutilized IMO, the system lets the commuter down, the only way this may change is for people to force their complaints. I say may because often Govt agencies do not listen.
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Old 20-06-2013, 03:37 PM
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Actually a few roaming lynch mobs could do this country a favour - anyone else on board?
Of course you have to be willing to hang your own son if he has committed murder.
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Old 20-06-2013, 04:32 PM
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Being involved in drugs of abuse testing for a living, I'd be a lot more cautious dealing with such eratic behaviour in public. The stats are there to show a surprisingly high proportion of dangerous drivers for example are under the influence of drugs (not including alcohol). If a weapon became involved things could rapidly get out of control.


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Old 20-06-2013, 08:54 PM
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Use to love those. 2:30 has me in stiches.
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Old 20-06-2013, 11:19 PM
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We should all carry guns, preferably automatic.
I wish we we were more like the USA.
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That's right. Those girls would certainly have behaved themselves better if they each had a 9mm pistol in their hand bags.
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Old 21-06-2013, 01:59 AM
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Mate, you are over the top. Please cool down and read my post again.
And, I am NOT a hypocrite. I did NOT throw anyone off train, neither I ever stated that I should or did.
Be more careful when you are sticking labels on people..
Sorry Bojan, I did indeed misread your post, you simply stated that other people would have thrown them off the train.

Please accept my apologies.

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Old 21-06-2013, 02:09 AM
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People are just voicing there discussed. You are allowed to use justifiable force to defend yourself and others, this is the real world step outside your bubble. I just wonder if it was your wife or father would you still have the same opinion?
Hmm, now my father is dead, so that would be problematic. If it was my wife I would indeed defend her, the best course of action would be to remove myself or my loved ones from the situation first, then phone the police.

If you people could actually read what I write that would help.

I do not defend the action of the two girls.

Someone did defend the victim in question, using the appropriate means, they rang the cops, who are trained professionals and dealt with the situation without any further violence.

If the victim, or anyone else for that matter had responded violently, they should also have been detained, perhaps they would not have been charged once the police got the full story, but I'm pretty sure that they would have been detained at the scene at least.

Again, I'll state it so it's clear, the calls for violence against these two girls by people on this forum disgusts me. It is my opinion, which I believe that I'm entitled to hold and defend (without resorting to violence).

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Old 21-06-2013, 02:12 AM
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Sattler, Jones and Laws? Don't ever compare me to those scum again.
Sorry, that bit was meant for some of the other comments, your's was quite mild and didn't deserve to be lumped into the rest.

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Old 21-06-2013, 02:18 AM
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Thank you Lee!

I had forgotten about that particular behaviour and it seems to explain a lot of things.

The desire for peaceful human interaction is a luxury afforded to Australia...at the present.

But......if we allow loud and aggressive people to dictate their opinions/actions then we deserve the loss of the freedom to live in safety.

Democracy demands that to change something, the silent majority must speak out.

Stuart....after reading your previous posts I have formed an opinion that you are A TROLL!

Actually, your response has created a vibe that would not be there but for the negativity.

Viva La democracy!

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Dear Phil (and Lee),

Please continue to contribute to the debate, without resorting to name calling.

Am I not allowed to express and argue an opinion without being called a troll?

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Old 21-06-2013, 02:22 AM
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Stuart (rat156 ).......OK...I'll just ' stand back ' and watch you get assaulted and let you cop some ' horrific ' injuries.
Gee....poor old Stuart...we can't help him ... because he sees it as ' violence begetting violence.

What a tragedy...as Stuart is loaded into the Ambulance...beaten to a pulp....( if only we could have ' helped ' him )....anyway.....back to reading the Newspaper....!!

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Thanks for your incisive comments flash.

Please re-read my previous posts, I did not advocate doing nothing. In fact I didn't advocate anything, I was merely stating that the posts which I believe were inciting violence were inappropriate in this forum.

If you cannot contribute to an adult discussion about violence in society please refrain from posting in this thread.

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Old 21-06-2013, 02:31 AM
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The only reason why these girls get away with this Behaviour is because nobody stands up to them. If a group of people stood up and defended this guy the result would of been different.
I totally agree with Hagar and 2stoke and I think people like rat123 would of simply stuck his head in the newspaper and do nothing.
Man up rat123 and grow some.
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Please, if you're going to use my forum name, at least get it right. I (usually) sign my posts with my name, you could always use that instead.

This has been the second post suggesting that I should "man up" or something similar, along with a couple of posts saying I'm either delusional or living in a "bubble".

To this I can only say, firstly, you assume I'm a man, which is correct, but until now was still an assumption. Which brings me on to the second, and possibly more important fact, you don't know me, what I do or where I am. I can't go into too many details on this forum, but at present, my "bubble" is in Afghanistan, where I see the results of extreme violence almost every day, I get shot at regularly.

Perhaps some of those calling for violence should "man up" themselves and see the consequences of the failure of diplomacy first hand.

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Old 21-06-2013, 04:16 AM
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people have said that Legal Aid is tax payers money, apparently when I used it many moons ago, in qld, lawyers have to submit a day of free advice for defense. upon knowing this I just pleaded guilty in my own defense.

they're usually uni students or some new kid at a firm
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Old 21-06-2013, 04:23 AM
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Please, if you're going to use my forum name, at least get it right. I (usually) sign my posts with my name, you could always use that instead.

This has been the second post suggesting that I should "man up" or something similar, along with a couple of posts saying I'm either delusional or living in a "bubble".

To this I can only say, firstly, you assume I'm a man, which is correct, but until now was still an assumption. Which brings me on to the second, and possibly more important fact, you don't know me, what I do or where I am. I can't go into too many details on this forum, but at present, my "bubble" is in Afghanistan, where I see the results of extreme violence almost every day, I get shot at regularly.

Perhaps some of those calling for violence should "man up" themselves and see the consequences of the failure of diplomacy first hand.

Stuart
seriously Stuart. you chose to be in the army or whatever ... blame America for Afghanistan, and thirdly no one cares
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Old 21-06-2013, 04:32 AM
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conscripted men got spat on when they returned from Vietnam ... I doubt you will ... think yourself lucky Stuart

ps its me shooting at you from my camo bunker in COD MW3

..and on topic, I wonder if they would've been apprehended if the didn't attack a copper .....

either way a packed train no one helps ...we live in a society where video ... no matter what happens .. is the best thing (sadly intervention isn't it)

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