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29-10-2011, 02:45 AM
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Ebotec Alpeht Sicamb
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Originally Posted by marki
The more I look at the components use to build Macs these days the more I think thats just PC hardware at an extravagant price   .
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Yep, in the same way a Takahashi is just a Bosma at an extravagant price.
Cheers
Steffen.
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29-10-2011, 09:08 AM
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I went from 0 Apple products to now owning 5 (that includes 3 iPhones for app development though) and my iMac is a great computer. For the price I paid yeah I could have gotten a bit more of a powerful PC but there are no regrets.
Once you spend a week or so on your Mac you'll pretty much know all you need to know to use the computer with ease.
I still have windows, running under VMWare and Bootcamp, so all the tools are still there for me to use.
Personally I think of computers as tools to get the job done, whether it be CAD work, document writing or yes even gaming. Some are easier to use or look more pleasing and some are more expensive... I like my Apple tools
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29-10-2011, 11:27 AM
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You did What ... !!!!!!! .... you bought a Mac.
Nahhh !!! .. that's OK ... I have an Ipad 2 and the latest Ipod 64gb.
My daughter is trying to " convert " me to a MAC ... she reckons ... once you get the hang of it ... you'd never go near a PC again... ... dunno about that.
Good one houghty 
I still like my PC for FPS and general Web use.
Flash. 
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29-10-2011, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by marki
The more I look at the components use to build Macs these days the more I think thats just PC hardware at an extravagant price   .
Mark
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i have to agree - but sometimes when you see a bargin - the one i bought they flogged for nearly 1700 and i got it for under a grand with some warranty still. the nearest Win version ultranoteboook is nowhere near the price i paid.
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29-10-2011, 02:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Steffen
With years of Windows baggage under your belt I bet it's more of an unlearning curve
In some situations, when you can't figure out how to do something, it helps to ask yourself "what would a completely computer-illiterate person try first?"
Cheers
Steffen.
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it is a challenge- i am wanting the right mouse button and copy but cant LOL. I have loaded pixinsight and skysafari pro (yes i bought thaty on the web site special - looks great)
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29-10-2011, 02:25 PM
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Waiting for next electron
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steffen
Yep, in the same way a Takahashi is just a Bosma at an extravagant price.
Cheers
Steffen.
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Yes apple is rotten to the intel core... 
Mark
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29-10-2011, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by h0ughy
it is a challenge- i am wanting the right mouse button and copy but cant LOL. I have loaded pixinsight and skysafari pro (yes i bought thaty on the web site special - looks great)
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just use two finger tap on the trackpad...
Last edited by rat156; 29-10-2011 at 04:42 PM.
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29-10-2011, 02:55 PM
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Once he's enabled that in Preferences > Trackpad.
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30-10-2011, 02:13 AM
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Ebotec Alpeht Sicamb
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Does two-finger tap still need configuring? I don't remember, most of these customisations seem to happen in a subconscious routine whenever I set up a new Mac
That said, you can always use control-click for right-button functions such as context menus. Better still, explore the wondrous world of drag'n'drop which on the Mac works in many situations and often in smart and surprising ways.
EDIT: Also, familiarise yourself with the numerous keyboard short-cuts. I reckon I haven't used the mouse for copy and paste in a long while. Many of the short-cuts used in Windows work if you substitute control with command.
Cheers
Steffen.
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31-10-2011, 03:28 PM
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Let there be night...
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Talk of this just made me buy a spanking 11" MacBook Air to add to my collection. Beeootiful!  Not much larger than the iPad. Going to use it for work though to replace my old PowerBook G4. Can't believe the weight and size difference.
Last edited by Omaroo; 31-10-2011 at 03:42 PM.
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31-10-2011, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Omaroo
Talk of this just made me buy a spanking 11" MacBook Air to add to my collection. Beeootiful!  Not much larger than the iPad. Going to use it for work though to replace my old PowerBook G4. Can't believe the weight and size difference.
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considering i have the old model 1.6gig dual core it screams with the ssd drive. i have loaded pixinsight and i bought skysafari. i tried to load my version 6 of starry night pro but it comes back and says the powerPC is no longer supported?
I must say it is growing on me
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31-10-2011, 03:48 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Steffen
Does two-finger tap still need configuring? I don't remember, most of these customisations seem to happen in a subconscious routine whenever I set up a new Mac
That said, you can always use control-click for right-button functions such as context menus. Better still, explore the wondrous world of drag'n'drop which on the Mac works in many situations and often in smart and surprising ways.
EDIT: Also, familiarise yourself with the numerous keyboard short-cuts. I reckon I haven't used the mouse for copy and paste in a long while. Many of the short-cuts used in Windows work if you substitute control with command.
Cheers
Steffen.
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thanks Steffan
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31-10-2011, 03:53 PM
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i also bought from fleabay a 12V cig lighter powerpack for the macbook and a vga connector. have loaded openoffice
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31-10-2011, 09:49 PM
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I too bought my first Mac this year. I have been in the IT industry for many years and thought I should check out the 'other side'.
I think the transition from Windows to Mac would be a lot easier for the novice user. I am so ingrained with the 'Microsoft' way of doing things I find it frustrating working out how to do simple tasks.
Remember you can still run windows on the Mac laptops with Bootcamp if you wish, just keep in mind that there are a few keys missing from the Mac keyboard. I believe this was done by Apple to make it annoying to run windows on Mac hardware.
All that aside, the Unibody is definately the best laptop hardware on the planet at the moment.
Good luck learning the new platform!
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02-11-2011, 01:31 PM
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David,
I thought I might post this, as I have found this very helpful in transitioning:
Mac OS X keyboard shortcuts
Hope it helps.
Also, nice one, Chris! If I didn't already have the MBP, I mighthave gone the Air route. I am very, very happy with mine. PixInsight, Photoshop, Digital Photo Professional all screamalong.
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02-11-2011, 02:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cjmarsh81
I too bought my first Mac this year. I have been in the IT industry for many years and thought I should check out the 'other side'.
I think the transition from Windows to Mac would be a lot easier for the novice user. I am so ingrained with the 'Microsoft' way of doing things I find it frustrating working out how to do simple tasks.
Remember you can still run windows on the Mac laptops with Bootcamp if you wish, just keep in mind that there are a few keys missing from the Mac keyboard. I believe this was done by Apple to make it annoying to run windows on Mac hardware.
All that aside, the Unibody is definately the best laptop hardware on the planet at the moment.
Good luck learning the new platform!
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i have noted that there are some differences
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03-11-2011, 02:22 PM
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Be care with your "Apple"'s. Don't use them too regularly in case you get sick.
"Remember an Apple a day keeps the doctor away"
Barry
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26-11-2011, 11:29 PM
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well some news on my apple air - it died. Like the famous parrot sketch it is no more. i used it on friday night then shut it down, then tried to start it this morning - nothing. then i smelled it - unmistakable smell of a deceased motherboard. I was calm, i didnt throuw it, didnt swear, i even didnt send an abusive email to the guy i bought it off. i was very very lucky that it is still under warranty (til jan 25th 2012). So its the same as any other product out there in the market - dont plan on having it long term without a backup plan. i will be taking up the applecare warranty after i get it fixed.
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27-11-2011, 12:29 PM
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Let there be night...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by h0ughy
well some news on my apple air - it died. Like the famous parrot sketch it is no more. i used it on friday night then shut it down, then tried to start it this morning - nothing. then i smelled it - unmistakable smell of a deceased motherboard. I was calm, i didnt throuw it, didnt swear, i even didnt send an abusive email to the guy i bought it off. i was very very lucky that it is still under warranty (til jan 25th 2012). So its the same as any other product out there in the market - dont plan on having it long term without a backup plan. i will be taking up the applecare warranty after i get it fixed.
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Yep David - a machine is just a machine is just a machine. Like any other, they will all occasionally die nasty deaths.
Was it at all wet at the time with dew? Unlike most laptops, the Airs run quite cool, so in moist air they aren't as ameliorative - i.e. they don't act as their own dew heater.
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27-11-2011, 05:04 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Omaroo
Yep David - a machine is just a machine is just a machine. Like any other, they will all occasionally die nasty deaths.
Was it at all wet at the time with dew? Unlike most laptops, the Airs run quite cool, so in moist air they aren't as ameliorative - i.e. they don't act as their own dew heater.
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no comments until i can find out what died - as for the dew its been very wet this week and rather wet but its been indoors
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