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Old 15-03-2007, 09:13 PM
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utterly amazing illusion on Youtube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB-wU...elated&search=
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Old 15-03-2007, 10:56 PM
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I have gone backwards and forwards heaps of times, paused many many times and I am still in awe!!!!

The one out in the open where she just holds the ring around shoulder height and drops it is stunning!!!!!! You can see through the slits that she has already changed without doing anything! You honestly cannot see how it is done!

And at the end with the silver confetti

Man, they are GOOD!
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Old 15-03-2007, 11:04 PM
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I have gone frame by frame

Damn Good!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 16-03-2007, 12:26 AM
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Very Impressed ! How do they do it !
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Old 16-03-2007, 07:51 AM
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The most upsetting thing is that Australia's got talent is just another copy of America!

Is there anyone in Australian TV that has an imaginative cell in their tiny little brain! I looked through the Green Guide yesterday and I think I found about 4 or 5 hours of worthwhile entertainment, at least Myth Busters are back!
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Old 16-03-2007, 08:18 AM
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That's pretty amazing, no idea how they did it.

Nice to see David Hasselhoff still clinging on
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Old 16-03-2007, 09:05 AM
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The most upsetting thing is that Australia's got talent is just another copy of America!

Is there anyone in Australian TV that has an imaginative cell in their tiny little brain! I looked through the Green Guide yesterday and I think I found about 4 or 5 hours of worthwhile entertainment, at least Myth Busters are back!

why is it upsetting? the real problem is that most new ideas and innovations and inventions simply do not work, in both a marketing sense and practically as well. It is easier to find a formula that has been successful elsewhere and import it, whether it is flint axes or TV shows, as you know it works. It is also easier to sell to advertisers who have to put up the hard $. They lose big time if it is a flop. The history of invention is that most new ideas are flops. Entertainment is a little different, in that people like something fresh and new, but what one audience finds entertaining will probably also be a hit with other audiences.

There is a rule somewhere that new technology has to be 10 times better than old technology to be accepted by people.
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Well I analysed it also and easily found the secret. I am not so sure that I should publicly write it here, do you really want to know?
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Old 16-03-2007, 06:19 PM
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PM me tailwag with the secret
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Old 16-03-2007, 07:11 PM
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Well I analysed it also and easily found the secret. I am not so sure that I should publicly write it here, do you really want to know?

easily? I am impressed.

I suspect that it has something to do with colours changing as much as some frabric is added from within her existing costume and pieces discarded. She looked very padded at the start.
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Old 16-03-2007, 07:20 PM
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We all want to know... please DO TELL!
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Okay, well it's not so much a trick as a process, firstly you have to remember that there is only one dress. Second, think of the dress being a very long and continuously stitched together garment. Next consider that the method of getting from one part of the long dress to the next part of the dress (different visual style) is the action of pulling downwards in a single motion from the bra line downwards towards the floor.

Now when a 'dress change' magically occurs, what she does is pulls the one very long dress downwards and the next pattern becomes visible and of course, if you look carefully you will see that the hem line drops for each change.

She pulls each new section down (this takes 1 to 2 seconds) and of course your eyes are trained on her waving arms and the colour of the 'new' dress, which is just really a new portion of the one long continuous dress.

Getting into her dress is the hardest part, she needs to be folded within the dress up to 7 times and each new section pressed down and neat, thus when she miraculously undoes the folding, by simply pulling downwards on the top of the dress, each new 'dress' appears, nice and neat and always growing in length.

This is especially obvious towards the end, when she has visually obvious longer (lower) hem lines, until of course the last one actually touches the floor.

She is good at what she does, the man is only the foil to distract you, the girl does it all, a downward pulling motion of a very cleverly sewn together dress that is sewn together in an opposite end to end fashion so that each time the outer most part is pulled down, the next part appears right side up.

The hardest part is practicing how fast you can do the pull downs, she is very good, but it ain't magic, it's just one very well constructed and long dress, folded very precisely and reversed with a lot of pomp and ceremony.

She is good
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What about him and his tux?
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A very interesting performance and well worth the wait for a dial up download .. hope they dont turn to robbing banks as they have the perfect get away before them .. step out the door cash and guns in hand and appear as frigtended customers by the time they hit the street... who would figure it out?
I have no idea how it is done and put it down to the fact they must have genuine magical powers ...
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Wow !!!

That is amazing ....... even though its obviously a trick , how well do they do it . Genuine magic it appears
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Old 17-03-2007, 09:35 AM
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The couple (David and Dania) have a patent on how this is done:

http://www.freepatentsonline.com/6308334.html

IMHO, The enjoyment of any magic trick is not knowing how it's done, it's in how well the
performers execute it.

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What about him and his tux?
Same thing, he has the white one on all the time under the black one, he simple peels it off, probably Velcro along the side of his body, it looks like a suit but is an all in one body suit (jacket, pants, shirt), very thin material. When he pulls it off behind the cover, it remains in the cover, you see the woman make sure it stays hidden, notice he moment of securing that the black garment is not seen, her hand closest to the stage is higher than her rear hand.

Just back to the women, the most daring transition is the one in the hoop from green to blue, they really push the edge here, but quite clearly you can see the downward motion as the blue dress falls (good old gravity) from top to bottom. I would further add that each hem would be weighted slightly to assist in removing the possibility of creases or flapping. It's easy to see, but the trick with all prestidigitation is to look 'not' where you are being misdirected to.
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Old 17-03-2007, 10:42 AM
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IMHO, The enjoyment of any magic trick is not knowing how it's done, it's in how well the
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I totally agree with you but I was badgered into it, unfortunately I succumb to peer pressure easily
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Old 17-03-2007, 10:45 AM
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Wow !!!

That is amazing ....... even though its obviously a trick , how well do they do it . Genuine magic it appears
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I totally agree with you, I have been mates with a multi Mo award winner and close up magic winner for most of my adult life, he taught me everything he knows, I was fire eating as a teenager and I can tell you, this YouTube performance is of the highest quality.
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