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Old 06-11-2016, 09:29 AM
mikeyjames (Mick)
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Just to confirm, have updated my V3 handset to 3.38.09 today for my EQ3 and daylight align is not available.

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I Ian,
Have you contacted Skywatcher support? I think the more people that contact them the more chance they'll get it fixed.

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Old 06-11-2016, 09:41 AM
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Hi all,
They asked me to re-flash the firmware of the hand controller and the motor controller on the mount - this made no difference.

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Well, I was wrong. Ever since I re-flashed the hand controller and updated the mount's motor controller there has been some really odd behaviour.

Sometimes I will select a target, the hand controller will give the coordinates correctly but then point at the ground. For example, yesterday afternoon I asked it to point at the sun, it gave coordinates of around 267 degrees (near west) and altitude of 40 degrees but it pointed at the ground.

I had Stellarium running last night with the mount. The few times it did it Stellarium showed that the mount was indeed pointing at the ground.

If I then park the scope and try again, it works fine.

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Old 06-11-2016, 12:43 PM
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Not sure if it is still relevant for you, but I had some time free this morning to do a video for you which shows how it works with my AZ-EQ6. Where it works in AZ mode and not in EQ mode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHLZtRtECoA

Feel free to send it to SkyWatcher if you think it helps.

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Old 06-11-2016, 01:17 PM
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Not sure if it is still relevant for you, but I had some time free this morning to do a video for you which shows how it works with my AZ-EQ6. Where it works in AZ mode and not in EQ mode.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHLZtRtECoA

Feel free to send it to SkyWatcher if you think it helps.

Joel
Thanks for that. At first Skywatcher told me that I should see a menu for "Daytime Align" like you seem to have. Then they told me for the NEQ6 the sun can be selected under "1-Star Alignment". As we know, neither is true.

I actually sent them some pics to prove I have both motor controller and handset on latest firmware and I also them a video showing the selection of objects I get at midday under 1-star align.

I will send them you video as well. Appreciate it.
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Old 06-11-2016, 04:46 PM
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The plot thickens.
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Old 08-11-2016, 10:22 AM
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Hi all,
I finally got this answer from Skywatcher support in Australia:

"I got the answer from SkyWatcher and unfortunately they confirmed that the daytime alignment is not available for equatorial mount. It is reasonable because the equatorial mounts have to be aligned to the south/north pole and that can be done only during the night. However, all the equatorial mount has the solar tracking rate."

Can someone with more knowledge than me report whether this actually makes sense.

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Old 08-11-2016, 02:49 PM
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Mick,

It makes sense to me the explanation that they gave you. Bit of a shame that it was not mentioned in the Change Log for the firmware that it only works for AZ Mode.

In relation to the tracking (I may be wrong, but it is my working understanding) the mount provides for different tracking rates. The three main ones are Sidereal, Solar and Lunar.
  • Sidereal - Deep Sky/Stars. Basically anything with an RA/Dec on the Celestial Grid (J2000). Can probably use for some distant planets if you wanted to, but the mount will automatically select Solar Tracking for planets. This rate is about 99.7% that of the Solar Rate or about 1 degree of difference per day.
  • Solar - Sun and Planetary Bodies.
  • Lunar - Moon. This is the fastest of these rates as the moon moves quicker in the apparent sky.

There would be nothing stopping you doing a pretty darn good setup in EQ mode to start with, doing no alignment and just using the GoTo. You would obviously need to re-center the target, but at least the tracking mode is selected/changed and should give you at least a decent amount of time before it wanders off. If you ask me, the only thing worth your while setting up for would be the Sun, but I would not expect you to get the 1.5hrs or so that I can get in AZ mode.

There are two other rates which would be beneficial depending on your interests, but the mounts are not programmed for this and computer software starts to come into play. These are for Comets and Satellites.

Just my food for thought. Hope that at least maybe explains your question?

Joel
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Old 08-11-2016, 06:06 PM
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Mick,

It makes sense to me the explanation that they gave you. Bit of a shame that it was not mentioned in the Change Log for the firmware that it only works for AZ Mode.

In relation to the tracking (I may be wrong, but it is my working understanding) the mount provides for different tracking rates. The three main ones are Sidereal, Solar and Lunar.
  • Sidereal - Deep Sky/Stars. Basically anything with an RA/Dec on the Celestial Grid (J2000). Can probably use for some distant planets if you wanted to, but the mount will automatically select Solar Tracking for planets. This rate is about 99.7% that of the Solar Rate or about 1 degree of difference per day.
  • Solar - Sun and Planetary Bodies.
  • Lunar - Moon. This is the fastest of these rates as the moon moves quicker in the apparent sky.

There would be nothing stopping you doing a pretty darn good setup in EQ mode to start with, doing no alignment and just using the GoTo. You would obviously need to re-center the target, but at least the tracking mode is selected/changed and should give you at least a decent amount of time before it wanders off. If you ask me, the only thing worth your while setting up for would be the Sun, but I would not expect you to get the 1.5hrs or so that I can get in AZ mode.

There are two other rates which would be beneficial depending on your interests, but the mounts are not programmed for this and computer software starts to come into play. These are for Comets and Satellites.

Just my food for thought. Hope that at least maybe explains your question?

Joel
Thanks Joel, it definitely answers my question. I hadn't really thought about it since getting the telescope two weeks ago but it all makes perfect sense - the moon orbits us in approx. 28 days (12 deg diff per day), we orbit the sun in approx. 365 days (0.99 deg per day), and the sun orbits the galaxy in approx. 250 million years. I suppose about a degree every 695 thousand years doesn't really matter for the deep space stuff.

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