[quote=ving]the problem now steve is that your 12" is a grab and go.... you wont ned your 8"...[/quote
Naah, the 8" is far from retired. I was out last night with checking out Jupiter with it. The 12" is not really that grab and go especially when the weather is doing unpredictable things (like last night), so you might have to duck for cover any minute. The 8" is also great for quick looks, with very fast cooldown with the 90mm fan (e.g., last night with 20 degree temp diff: in 5 min it was clear at 100x, 10 min clear at high powers). I can also move it around easily in one piece: from front yard to back, or to dodge trees, the moon etc.
The 12" is a lot more transportable than I thought it was going to be, but the 8" is that much easier again (especially once you let go of the box!

). Storytime ...
... Last new moon w/e the weather looked hopeless and I was going to a bbq on the peninsula with about 10 other people. There was no way I was going to bother with the 12" but I could just chuck the 8" in the back seat without giving it a second thought, just in case there is something to see. And what do you know, it cleared up just for us (even though the rest of Melbourne stayed under cloud). We got to see Saturn, Jupiter, some of the showpiece DSOs and even a couple of galaxies. Everyone enjoyed it and some were blown away by Jupiter and Omega cent. At least one person is now looking to buy a new scope as a result. All thanks to the lil big scope.