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Old 20-08-2009, 09:20 PM
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Hey, why isnt there pizza and star nights........why???????????
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Old 21-08-2009, 12:39 AM
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Say, Lumen, the idea of taking some pics is a good one. My wife suggested the like, particularly if something through a scope of the moon or Jupiter. I found an article on using a wedcam as a makeshift planetary camera in the 'Projects & Articles' section here. The kids here are very comfortable with computers, so this astro thing will have more tangible relevance to them. Also makes for a momento of the occasion.

The ISS has also being mentioned if it would be visible that night from Sydney. Can anyone point me to a site where I might be able to get this info?

This time of the evening is also good for spotting satellites, though this would be a difficult task for this age group & the poor skies of Sydney not helping.
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Old 21-08-2009, 08:42 AM
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There is a site called heavens above where you put in your location and it tells you all the sattelites above your position down to 4 mag. If you could get the lat and long of your observing night it will tell you when the iss will be out.
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Old 22-08-2009, 06:50 PM
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Say, Lumen, the idea of taking some pics is a good one. My wife suggested the like, particularly if something through a scope of the moon or Jupiter. I found an article on using a wedcam as a makeshift planetary camera in the 'Projects & Articles' section here. The kids here are very comfortable with computers, so this astro thing will have more tangible relevance to them. Also makes for a momento of the occasion.

The ISS has also being mentioned if it would be visible that night from Sydney. Can anyone point me to a site where I might be able to get this info?

This time of the evening is also good for spotting satellites, though this would be a difficult task for this age group & the poor skies of Sydney not helping.

What I like doing, which I might try out, is running a webcam / digicam to either a laptop / tv screen.

I bought a $80 closed circuit security camera / tv set. Rigged the camera via a similar way to the webcam method, which allows me to present what the scope is viewing on the screen. Saves everyone waiting in turn to view... There's nothing like viewing through the eye piece of the scope though first hand.

I generally run the digicam to a 54cm rear projection tv. Really good quailty for a cheap digi cybershot.


You have a dslr yeah? If so you should let the kids, hit the shutter cable button and take "their" shot.
Let all the kids take a shot....get a class list and mark atleast the number of the first and last shot...

Take the camera download the pictures onto one of their computers... Get the kids / teacher to work out which shot goes with which kid....(Should be easy, with the list you made)

Chances are, at least three shots should have "something" in them.... a piece of junk burning up, satellite, planes etc... Get the kids to search their photo to see if "they" caught something...

I think that could be a REALLY fun activity, for the kids to do when you are not there. It would be like a big astro hide 'n' seek.... Tell them they have to look really close to find things.... Even when they don't, the fun will be in searching.....

When everyone is done, you will need to explain that the "lucky" winner/s were only made possible, by the other frames.... you would very rarely capture junk etc in one shot. But with lots you will...

See my thread on Star trails from Sydney. Check out how much junk I see from sydney...

I'm starting to realise I have above average viewing from Thompson's corner. I see visible junk burn up every night i'm out. Not to mention when I am capturing wide-field frames.
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Old 24-08-2009, 08:50 PM
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One of the coolest and most memorable things i did as a little one that i still remember, is comparing the sizes of the planets and other things out there on a smaller scale. eg earth golf ball, different planet tennis ball and basket ball, compared to the oval and the whole of earth.

Man primary school was awesome
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Old 25-08-2009, 10:34 AM
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Hi everyone,

The eve of the 'Big One', and a couple of things have happened.

Wavytone has donated a brilliant set of Edmond Scientific RKE eyepieces for this school's scope to replace the ratty ones it had, . Thanks, mate. I had a play with these EPs on saturday, & now I want a set! These are by far the easiest EPs to view with I have ever used. Really good for novices using a scope!

I also made a dob mount also for the school's 4.5" scope. The eq. mount it had terrified everyone into not using it. Very sad. It now works a treat, is not as intimidating & at a much more comfortable height for kids to use.

Very easy to make, & very inexpensive. I think it is a good option for any 4.5" scope on an equatorial mount that does not get used. It does not damage the scope & can be remounted onto its eq. mount if needed.
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Old 27-08-2009, 10:34 AM
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100 kids & parents + 3 scopes

Last night was the big sky show at my wife's school. Fifty students, 4 & 5 yr olds, plus one parent. No sibblings & only one parent on the whole allowed, for numbers. Roughly 100 all up. Alot of people.

The preschool's head teacher did a great job organising the night, dealing with parents & students & enthusing them all. She also had an 'alien' come & visit which the kids loved.

The scopes there where the school's refurbished 114mm dob, my Celestron C5 & my Odyssey II, called the 'Cannon' by the crowd.

After pizza, & washing hands, a little talk to point out what we were to see & point out the Southern Cross & pointers & Scorpio. Wouldn't you know it, a satellite crossed through Scorpio as I was pointing it out! Wowed everyone. Briefly mentioned Alpha Centuri & the direction of the centre of the Milky Way.

A BIG, BIG THANK YOU to Peter Hickey for loaning his laser pointer, . It proved invaluble in pointing out these features, .

The 114 was trained on the Moon. Always a crowd pleaser. It was handled by my wife who was thrown into the deep end in using a scope & finder.

The C5 had Jupiter. Could only use it at 125X because seeing was poor, & the image still shimmered. Enough to make out some banding & the Galilean moons. I had her on its eq. mount & tracking. This little scope was the unsung hero. Not once did I have to recentre the image & the clamps were engaged firmly enough to handle the kids grabbing the EP.

And the Odyssey had the Jewel Box. May not be the brightest cluster, but it is in the Southren Cross, & the kids were asked to spot the 'Ruby' in it, surrounded by diamonds. At this age some kids still needed a little boost up by mum or dad to reach the EP even though we were using a ladder. No child was allowed to view through the Odyssey without a parent up the step ladder behind them.

I am really glad I did fit a second finder towards the tail end of the Odyssey as it allowed quick repointing if the scope was nudged without needing to go up the ladder. I definately will be using this feature on the remodelling of the Odyssey. This is something I would recommend to anyone who is showing the sky with a big scope to crowds. If your scope does not have a tracking device, including DSC, or if its finder is not accessible from the opposite side from where it is located, this second finder works a charm. Saves an aweful lot of time & inconvinience to everyone. The finder I was using here was a modest 6X30. Enough to spot the Jewel Box.

Oh, & the ISS made a biref appearance too.

The main thing I would suggest to anyone showing young people things through a telescope is the technique of using one hand to cover one eye, & the other hand to hold onto the step ladder, or mum or dad. Not garanteed to stop them grabbing the EP, but really helps.

I thank everyone who has contributed ideas in this posting. The resulting show was good for all ages, young & old. Keeping it simple is the key. The sky is a big place & there is alot to take in in an unfamiliar enviroment for novices. The time at the three scopes was about an 1.5hrs. Not much time it would seem, but with so many little childern at that time of night, when the things to see were seen, they went home. It was 8:45 pm when the last few guests left. And the last couple of people were treated to Alpha Centuri & a cranked up view of the Moon through the Odyssey.

A really top night & experience, .
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Old 27-08-2009, 03:21 PM
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Hi Alex,

I also did a viewing evening on the Tuesday just past to Prep kids and their year 7 buddies. All up we had around 80 including parents. We had 40 at a time while the other 40 did a bush walk for about 45 min. spoke initially about the Australian flag and the sinificance of the union jack. southern cross (lasered while talking about this as well as the 7 pointed star with each point representing a state of australia and the 7th poimnt representing both NT and ACT. I then talked about a bit of Aboriginal Astronomy and related some stories from the internet about the emu, the sun and the moon in relation to their culture. Great night, just some thoughts for your next evening.

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Old 27-08-2009, 07:02 PM
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Great to hear everything went well!!
Still loving this thread, wealth of information for budding Astro presenters.
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Old 28-08-2009, 10:00 AM
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Mental,

Great thread. It gave me the push to put on a night for the local Joey Scouts (5&6yr olds). Two scopes set up. My old 8" on the moon and a 10" on Jupiter. The comments/exclamations from the kids were really worth the effort not to mention the reactions from the parents. A solar system colouring book downloaded from the web completed the night. Fantastic.

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