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Old 01-01-2007, 05:59 PM
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A camera pic is also going to make stars appear brighter than they do to the naked eye, if the exposure's correct
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Old 01-01-2007, 07:35 PM
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i have seen those thu my telescope... no chance of seeing them in light pollution tho

good stuff with the invention
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Old 01-01-2007, 09:34 PM
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Going against the grain.....

Hi and Happy New Year to everyone,

Ironically, I find is soooo much easier to locate and identify the asterism of 4 stars that make up the Octans trapezium……in light polluted Brisbane, than I do at a dark sky site!

The light pollution in my suburb is optimised such that these 4 stars just peek out above the light pollution threshold, making them reasonably easy to see in my Polar Alignment Scope once I have acquired the general field.

At a dark sky site however, I find it hard to pick the 4 stars in the PAS due to the plethora of other stars that are now suddenly visible.

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Old 24-01-2007, 04:36 PM
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A kids protractor, a fishing sinker, sticky tape and fishing line.
Put these together and you have a clinometer.
And a cheap compass for finding true south.
That,s what I used before i was GIVEN (lucky me) a Suunto compass and clinometer.
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Old 24-01-2007, 07:17 PM
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Hi Centauri

That's great news indeed. How do you set the latitude angle of the mount using the clinometer?

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Old 25-01-2007, 01:29 AM
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By fitting a straight edge into the dovetail slot (eq5), putting the clinometer on it and setting it for my lat. (20.7 degrees)
Also checked the same on the counterbalance shaft.

One meter VERY straight bit of 30mm Jarra was used in the latitude fork first to set true south of base on pier.
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Old 25-01-2007, 01:40 AM
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Oh and the results are always that in the PAS it is then a simple small tweak for the perfect alignment.
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Old 25-01-2007, 04:25 AM
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Thanks Centauri. I might have a go at making a protractor unit for its flexibility, as my template is only good for the latitude of Brisbane at 27° 30'.

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Old 30-01-2007, 01:06 PM
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Polar Alignment Tool 2 - PAT2

Here’s the latest development in my eternal quest to obtain a good, rough polar alignment in the daylight at unfamiliar observing sites (e.g. astro camps). The FOV of my Polar Alignment Scope is approx 3° so this altitude technique should get me with ±1° of the SCP.

Basically, it is a 360° protractor glued and screwed to a piece of 20mm x 20mm aluminium angle, with a plumb bob weight attached to a piece of orange line to help read the scale.

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Old 30-01-2007, 05:12 PM
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Here’s the latest development in my eternal quest to obtain a good, rough polar alignment in the daylight at unfamiliar observing sites (e.g. astro camps). The FOV of my Polar Alignment Scope is approx 3° so this altitude technique should get me with ±1° of the SCP.

Basically, it is a 360° protractor glued and screwed to a piece of 20mm x 20mm aluminium angle, with a plumb bob weight attached to a piece of orange line to help read the scale.

Cheers

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Old 05-07-2007, 10:19 AM
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Hello,

An illustrated update to show the importance of adjusting for Magnetic Variation, when polar aligning on the South Celestial Pole, illustrated in this example for Brisbane where True South is approx. 11 degrees E of Magnetic South.

You can obtain the precise magnetic variation for your location and the current year, from here.

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Old 05-07-2007, 10:14 PM
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Hello,

An illustrated update to show the importance of adjusting for Magnetic Variation, when polar aligning on the South Celestial Pole, illustrated in this example for Brisbane where True South is approx. 11 degrees E of Magnetic South.

You can obtain the precise magnetic variation for your location and the current year, from here.

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Thats a fantastic example of pure engineering excellence , and also how to set up for Duckadang . Can you please bring your Girl guide rig along so we can test it out, as we will be coming from south of the border we might need all the help we can get, being this far north we may get nose bleeds .

on a more serious note though, I watched a programme some time ago speaking of the reversal of the magnetic poles and that currently we are in a huge state of flux where the magnetic forces are at their weakest. I wonder how much it would effect this setup in the near and distant future ?
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Old 06-07-2007, 08:07 AM
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Thats a fantastic example of pure engineering excellence , and also how to set up for Duckadang . Can you please bring your Girl guide rig along so we can test it out, as we will be coming from south of the border we might need all the help we can get, being this far north we may get nose bleeds .

on a more serious note though, I watched a programme some time ago speaking of the reversal of the magnetic poles and that currently we are in a huge state of flux where the magnetic forces are at their weakest. I wonder how much it would effect this setup in the near and distant future ?

Hi Dave

Yes – I’ll bring the templates and devices to Qld Astrofest and we can apply them to your mounts which should get you within 1 or 2 degrees of the SCP. Not too sure if the “compass on a stick” will fit your tripod head, but we’ll give it a bash.

If we suffer a magnetic reversal, and also survive it, provided it settles down and becomes stable, I can just re-set the compass to the new off set value and she’ll be right again.

Look forward to seeing you guys in August.

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Old 06-07-2007, 10:43 PM
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Nice one Dennis,

Looks like something I could use on my mount. Always find that the az adjustment is the one I have a problem with. Levelling with the bubble and altitude scale seems to fix the altitude OK, but I have to hunt for a few minutes to get the azimuth in the right ballpark. Maybe your compass idea would speed things up a bit. I'll put it on my (long) list of things to get organised.

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Old 04-10-2007, 02:09 PM
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If we suffer a magnetic reversal, and also survive it, provided it settles down and becomes stable, I can just re-set the compass to the new off set value and she’ll be right again.
I remember hearing something about this a few years ago.
It would be interesting to see the affect it would have on electronic equipment. I know for a fact that everything using a CRT like TV's and old PC monitors would become useless overnight, unless they are sent off for service. Or we could swap TV's with the people in the northern hemi ;D
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I remember hearing something about this a few years ago.
It would be interesting to see the affect it would have on electronic equipment. I know for a fact that everything using a CRT like TV's and old PC monitors would become useless overnight, unless they are sent off for service. Or we could swap TV's with the people in the northern hemi ;D
Huge swapmeet on the Equator!
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There's a definite joke to be made in that thread title (do they actually exist??!!), but I digress

That's one ingenious piece of kit
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OK, a blast from the past, but I had to bring post #16 back to life. I've just started playing with an EQ5 and this little jig for altitude adjustment looks brilliant, thanks Dennis!
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This is one of the very best threads ever on IIS,I'm looking at setting up a spare mount on bush trips for wide field photography.

While the Queen is in Australia-she should tap Dennis on the shoulder with her athame,for this-well done Sir!

Thanks HOughy for the pointer to the link!

Cheers Chris
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Old 19-10-2011, 09:03 PM
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Hi Chris

I first set the system up at my home location and used it to set the altitude and azimuth as per the compass and protractor templates. I then fitted the German Equatorial Mount and aligned it using the built in Polar Alignment ‘Scope using the altitude and azimuth adjustment screws.

This gave me my baseline set up. I now only unscrew one of the azimuth adjusters to remove the mount from the tripod head; in my case, I selected the western azimuth adjustment screw.

Therefore, when I set up the mount again either at home or at a mobile location, after setting up the tripod with my home made templates, I fit the GEM head and only screw in the Western azimuth adjustment screw and this gets me within less than one degree of the SCP.

The Eastern side azimuth adjustment screw always remains untouched, acting as a fixed reference point. Thus, the mount always returns to the same position relative to the post that the azimuth adjustment screws push against.

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