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Old 09-05-2006, 07:06 AM
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Progress on cooling..

Sorry no photos yet, they're still in the camera.

Spent most of yesterday with the smell of solder in my nostrils! I built the K-3070 variable speed controller kit, using my electronics skills dating back to 1988, when I last did some soldering in year 8 at school

It worked!! Very pleased.

Hooked it up to the fan on one end, and the 12v battery on the other, and around it spun. One thing though, when i'm not putting the full speed through, the fan makes an annoying "whining" noise, but it's not there when i'm running at full speed. Matt, does yours do this? Any idea what it could be?

On reflection, the variable speed controller is overkill as I'm not expecting i'll be running the fan while viewing/imaging. The purpose of my fan is to cool the mirror to ambient before I start observing/imaging, so a simple on/off switch would've sufficed. I might still replace it with a simple on/off switch control, to get rid of the annoying whining noise and also to simply have a smaller, more compact unit sitting on the back of the scope.

To remove unsightly and annoying wire joins, and to also allow easier transportation, unpacking etc, I soldered some "stereo type" plugs to the wires and some alligator clips to the battery terminal end.

So now, I can unplug the controller from the fan, and I can unplug the battery from the controller. I also soldered a cigarette lighter plug to a separate wire (again with a plug at the other end), so I can switch power to the unit between the 12v battery cell (with alligator clip attachments) and the 12v jumpstarter battery pack (with cigarette lighter attachment) for greater convenience out in the field, depending on what else i'm running at the time.

What's next?

1. Put it on the scope! It's still in the house, not tested in the field yet. I know the mounting plate fits, the fan is already attached to that, but I haven't taken the controller box and battery out at the same time to get it running on the scope. Will do that tonight.

2. Wire the temperature sensor to the mirror. I still haven't taken my mirror out to clean it and attach the mirror temp sensor. So i'm still just measuring ambient. I intend to do this tonight as well, hopefully.

3. Active cooling. But this will come later. I'll just use the fan (in combination with temperature sensing) for a few weeks and see if I can notice any difference, before I go down the more complex path of active cooling. But I can imagine it will be necessary.

The temperature is dropping really quickly right now.. 23+° during some days, and as soon as the sun goes over the hill at around 5pm, the temperature drops very quickly and by 5:30pm, the ambient reading is showing 13°.

I hope this makes a difference to getting the mirror down to that temperature quicker, especially with Jupiter rising so early these days, I don't have as long to wait before starting imaging.

I'll upload pictures tomorrow hopefully, as I'll try to take the last pics tonight with it attached to the scope.
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Old 09-05-2006, 10:24 AM
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To remove unsightly and annoying wire joins...
asi, another clean one......let em hang out mike, let em hang out

what are the young kids of today thinking..... i dunno, it must be all the drugs they smoke, but back in my day........
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Old 09-05-2006, 10:34 AM
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Mike

That whining noise is normal. It's the motor in the fan struggling to get current. It happens when you adjust the speed to lower than what the fan's meant to run at.

I've learned to put up with it.

That's why I made those marks on the box for half speed. The noise is less irritating at that speed than any slower.
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Old 14-05-2006, 08:05 AM
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Finished my fan cooling yesterday.

Took the mirror out yesterday, cleaned it (took some photos, too, so I can write a how-to for mirror cleaning), and attached the sensor to the mirror.

The fan mod is finished, the mounting plate fits, works, all hooks up to the 12v battery.

Got heaps of photos in the camera, will transfer them later and post them.
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Old 14-05-2006, 08:33 AM
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sounds great mike, i really hope you have some great seeing.

things are all coming together for you. It is a great sense of being more in control when you can look at the temp readout, see it within .5 degrees, you have your collimation tweaked and then the rest is up to the weather.


you know you are ready to take advantage of the conditions to the best of your ability!

throw your top class processing into the mix and whammo!
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