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Old 11-10-2012, 11:48 PM
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Orion DSLR cooler box test, NGC 253.

Hi,

Well, my orion cooler box arrived today, so i decided to give it a quick test.

Not ideal conditions, windy and cold so it was a bit difficult to gauge it's true performance. Once I had installed the camera and let it cool for an hour, inside temp -8.6c outside +5.8c.
Balance was an issue, it required another 2.5kgs counter weight. I hear people saying, too much weight on HEQ Pro 5 mount, the main bearing is massive so I have no concern, I would rather balance properly and take the stress from the drives.
The standard focuser on the BINTEL F/4 coped well with the weight, I defocused on a star and placed slight pressure on the assembly, very little flexure.
I hear you say, you can't see to focus, with camera in the cooler box, I used live view and have a remote monitor in the observatory.
It takes a while to install the camera and get it setup, but this will become quicker when i get used to it.
The only problem I found is the the internal external temp sensors are the wrong way round, no biggy, just need to remember out is in.

The image of NGC 253 is 8 minute subs, a total of 48 minutes, no darks flats or bias, I wanted to stack and see how it would come up.

You be the judge.

Also a single 8 minute sub, so you can see how it came out of the camera.
The stars, are less than perfect, as the scope was been blown about.

When I get a warm night, with no wind I'll do another test and post it.

Cheers,

Justin.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:12 AM
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Nice one.
Can't wait to find out how it handles an Aussie Summer.
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Old 12-10-2012, 01:51 AM
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That's a top shot of 253 Justin. Have you got any shots to compare with/without the cooling?
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Old 12-10-2012, 07:36 AM
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Looking good, Justin
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Old 12-10-2012, 06:35 PM
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Looking good, Justin
Thanks Laurie!

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That's a top shot of 253 Justin. Have you got any shots to compare with/without the cooling?
Thanks Rob!

Not as yet, waiting for a warm night, to do comparison shots.

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Nice one.
Can't wait to find out how it handles an Aussie Summer.
Thanks jjj!

I think it will have it's limitations, the canon 1100D perfroms quite well up 5c, did a test today with the outside temp being an average of 18c. The best I could get is a total drop of 15c after 1.5 hours.

So I think orions claim of up to 22c drop is very optimistic!

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Old 12-10-2012, 11:20 PM
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Nice shot Justin, not bad for only 6 subs! Why not process darks / flats as well though - even cooled CCD images are improved with these. It will be interesting to see the comparison shots with / without cooling.
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Old 13-10-2012, 08:22 AM
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Nice shot Justin, not bad for only 6 subs! Why not process darks / flats as well though - even cooled CCD images are improved with these. It will be interesting to see the comparison shots with / without cooling.
Thanks David!

That was an initial test, Iv'e taken new darks, bias and flats last night wanted to do these around 0c with the cooler. Now all I need is a warmer night to do the comparison.

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Great result, Justin. Looks like a promising device. The single frame is very noise free.
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Old 13-10-2012, 03:18 PM
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Great result, Justin. Looks like a promising device. The single frame is very noise free.
Thanks Graeme!

Fingers crossed, it will do the job on warm nights.

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Old 14-10-2012, 11:48 AM
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That looks pretty good to me Justin. Nice colours and I can't see any noise. In fact it's a very good NGC 253 for such a short exposure.

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Old 14-10-2012, 03:03 PM
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Interesting what a dozen fewer degrees can make Justin, very benificial seeing such a smooth result, yep, Must investigate these cooler devices, never heard of them before ?
Nice going ! !
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Old 14-10-2012, 06:17 PM
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Interesting what a dozen fewer degrees can make Justin, very benificial seeing such a smooth result, yep, Must investigate these cooler devices, never heard of them before ?
Nice going ! !
Thanks Bob!

The main issue with the cooler box is counter balance with the extra weight, especially on a newtonian.

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That looks pretty good to me Justin. Nice colours and I can't see any noise. In fact it's a very good NGC 253 for such a short exposure.

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Steve
Thanks Steve!

Being able to push past 5 minute subs is certainly helping with the images.

Cheers,

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Great effort Justin.
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Great effort Justin.
Thanks Louie!

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Very nice galaxy photo Justin.

Good luck with the cooler box.

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Old 20-10-2012, 01:39 AM
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Very nice galaxy photo Justin.

Good luck with the cooler box.

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Looking promising Justin ...don't ya love it when a satellite drives itself right through the middle of your galaxy....

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Old 20-10-2012, 05:16 PM
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Looking promising Justin ...don't ya love it when a satellite drives itself right through the middle of your galaxy....

Mike
Thanks Mike!

And yeh, drives through them like the sword of damocles!

The only one I've kept is of an iridium flare earlier this year.

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