Noah's Ark and the Flood

GeoffW1 (Geoff) · #1 28-06-2012, 05:59 PM

Hi,

This might interest a few: was there a Flood? Did someone build a boat?

SBS 2 at 7.40 pm tonight:

"The story of Noah's Ark has always exercised a strange fascination for people, and many have tried to find the remains of the legendary boat. In the 1950s a French explorer, Fernand Navarra, returned from Mount Ararat with a plank he found in a crevasse in a glacier. It was carbon-dated and found to be nearly 5000 years old. This program reveals that there really was a great flood."

Cheers

FlashDrive (Poppy) · #2 28-06-2012, 06:19 PM

Thanks Geoff ... I like a good Doc'o .... especially ancient history and Biblical Events.

Flash

AstralTraveller (David) · #3 29-06-2012, 02:42 PM

Unfortunately I didn't see that it was on until today and at the moment it isn't available via SBS OnDemand. Pity, as I would have liked to know what line they took. Especially as I know what happened.

Chris.B (Christopher) · #4 29-06-2012, 03:01 PM

Missed it as well.
I do know that there are North American Indian legends of a great flood and an Indian/s building a raft to ride it out.

troypiggo (Troy) · #5 29-06-2012, 03:07 PM

There was another one just recently shown in the documentary "Bruce Almighty."

FlashDrive (Poppy) · #6 29-06-2012, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AstralTraveller

. Pity, as I would have liked to know what line they took. Especially as I know what happened.

Come on then .... I'm waiting .. and so are the others

This should be good ...!!!

Flash

AstralTraveller (David) · #7 29-06-2012, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris.B

Missed it as well.
I do know that there are North American Indian legends of a great flood and an Indian/s building a raft to ride it out.

There were quite a few great floods in Nth America and you'd have needed more than a raft to ride them out. There was the Lake Bonneville "flood that geologists estimate to have lasted up to a year. It is estimated that this breach [of the natural dam] released 1,000 cubic miles (4,200 km3) of water in the first few weeks."

Further north were the Missoula Floods, first recognised in the 1920 by Bretz. It's now believed that there were 40+ floods over a 2000 year period at the end of the last glacial as ice dams formed and ruptured. Estimates of the peak flow rate of the largest flood range from 17 cubic kilometers per hour up to 60 cubic kilometers per hour. The maximum flow speed approached 36 meters/second (130 km/h or 80 mph).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Bonneville
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missoula_Floods

AstralTraveller (David) · #8 29-06-2012, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by FlashDrive

Come on then .... I'm waiting .. and so are the others

This should be good ...!!!

Flash

So, what did the show say???

FlashDrive (Poppy) · #9 29-06-2012, 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by AstralTraveller

So, what did the show say???

They said it .... rained and rained and rained for 40 days and 40 nights... ( according to Noah's account of the event )
The water came from above the earth ( the heavens ) and even... from below ..!!

Your turn now .. Especially as I know what happened.

Flash

jenchris (Jennifer) · #10 29-06-2012, 04:02 PM

Sounds like we went through the tail of a CO2 and water ice comet

Baddad (Marty) · #11 29-06-2012, 04:14 PM

Hi All,

Noah's Ark had always intrigued me when I was a junior.
I thought who could have had the super human strength and speed in cleaning the Ark.

All those animals would make a humungus mess. Then there was the feeding and the....

My brain hurts.

Cheers

astroron (Ron) · #12 29-06-2012, 04:18 PM

I really didn't think much of it at all

The geology was ok, but the rest was nothing
but rehashing what was mostly known from historical
records.
They never found anything of substance of the Ark,
and the bits of wood that they reckon came from the ark
that was shown, had been cut by a saw, and yet the person
who supposedly brought down from the mountain used an axe.
The Turks and the Russians have frowned about people climbing the mountain over the years, which in my mind has added to the mystery.
Cheers

lacad01 (Adam) · #13 29-06-2012, 04:24 PM

...and this has what to do with an astronomy forum..

troypiggo (Troy) · #14 29-06-2012, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by lacad01

...and this has what to do with an astronomy forum..

It's the General Chat section

chris lewis · #15 29-06-2012, 04:31 PM

Articles on the Noahs Ark myth should not be placed here. It is more suitable for the numerous delusional religous sites. We do not live in the dark ages any more. Critical thinking and science has replaced blind faith.Time to move on.

Chris

Stardrifter_WA · #16 29-06-2012, 04:48 PM

I only have one question. If it rained for 40 days and nights and flooded the world to the extent that an, alleged, Ark wound up sitting on top of a mountain, where did all the water come from, and where did it all go afterwards

Or am I just being too anal

GeoffW1 (Geoff) · #17 29-06-2012, 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris lewis

Articles on the Noahs Ark myth should not be placed here. It is more suitable for the numerous delusional religous sites. We do not live in the dark ages any more. Critical thinking and science has replaced blind faith.Time to move on.

Chris

Chris,

You are most certainly entitled to an opinion, in fact, that's the whole point if you see what I mean.

Note that I posted no article, and nor did anyone else I feel. I posted a heads-up for anyone who might feel interested in a TV show. That's all it was. Let's ease up a bit.

Cheers

astroron (Ron) · #18 29-06-2012, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stardrifter_WA

I only have one question. If it rained for 40 days and nights and flooded the world to the extent that an, alleged, Ark wound up sitting on top of a mountain, where did all the water come from, and where did it all go afterwards

Or am I just being too anal

I really think you have to take it in the context of the time it was supposed to have happened.
The world was a smaller place then, people didn't travel as much and basically their world was the countries around where they lived.
I am not looking at this in the religous sense but in the historical and geological scheme of things.
It seems that there is no doubt that a flood occured, and if you had watched the program, they gave a perfectly logical explanation as to where the water came from.
Not a believer in the ark myself but am willing to believe there was a flood way back in history.
Cheers

troypiggo (Troy) · #19 29-06-2012, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chris lewis

Articles on the Noahs Ark myth should not be placed here. It is more suitable for the numerous delusional religous sites. We do not live in the dark ages any more. Critical thinking and science has replaced blind faith.Time to move on.

Chris

I'm an atheist, but that comment is pretty ordinary, mate. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and belief, and this is the General Chat section where anything goes. So time you moved on if you don't like it.

Stardrifter_WA · #20 29-06-2012, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by astroron

I really think you have to take it in the context of the time it was supposed to have happened.
The world was a smaller place then, people didn't travel as much and basically their world was the countries around where they lived.
I am not looking at this in the religous sense but in the historical and geological scheme of things.
It seems that there is no doubt that a flood occured, and if you had watched the program, they gave a perfectly logical explanation as to where the water came from.
Not a believer in the ark myself but am willing to believe there was a flood way back in history.
Cheers

Seriously Ron, a flood big enough to put a boat on top of a mountain?

Frankly, I don't doubt that there may have been a major flood at the time, but it is beyond believable that it would have been big enough to put a boat on top of a mountain. But then, you can call me the worlds biggest sceptic anyway.