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Old 14-03-2012, 10:42 PM
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The dream priceless 6" APO for sale

No not mine

However, if you haven't noticed, the only other version on Earth, of my Starfire 152EDF with 4" field flattener, is For Sale on Astromart

See Classified #769408 in the refractor section

This is literally a once in a lifetime opportunity to own a two of a kind collectors item and arguably the Worlds finest 6" APO.

Personally I think the $10K price tag is an absolute bargain!

From a collectors perspective, it is not 100% original though as the owner changed the original 4" focuser for the more modern greaseless AP version with feathertouch.

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Old 14-03-2012, 10:55 PM
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Or you could get this one and have $9500 change:
http://www.astromart.com/classifieds...fied_id=769492



I did a search, and that one came up instead, not quite in the same league.

It must be a huge bugger of a thing. If I sold every piece of gear I owned...
I'd still come up 4 grand short
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Old 14-03-2012, 11:02 PM
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You have a bit of competition..whilst searching for your ad I found another AP152EDF f/7.5 on Astromart...must be a time to sell.
...what do you mean Hans? That's the one I am posting about I am not selling mine...
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Old 14-03-2012, 11:04 PM
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We finally got this question answered though:
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Bah!! Still don't beat a 2 of a kind Starfire 152EDF with 4" FF http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/....evilgrin10.gif be interesting to see how much that would collect at auction...of course we will never find out http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/...._whistling.gif I win http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/....ilies/wave.gif
Mike, if it isn't too rude to ask, how much would it have cost when new.

It is a ton of cash, but actually seems quite reasonable compared to some other gear. If I had a permanent setup I'd be tempted to live off frozen peas for the rest of the year.
Is it the air-spaced FPL-51?

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Old 15-03-2012, 09:22 AM
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There ya go Mike, Starfire Bino's.
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Old 15-03-2012, 10:08 AM
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There ya go Mike, Starfire Bino's.
Awesome, and Mike is the only guy I know who could handhold them
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Old 15-03-2012, 10:13 AM
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There ya go Mike, Starfire Bino's.
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Old 15-03-2012, 10:25 AM
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Awesome, and Mike is the only guy I know who could handhold them
AND without bolting them together!

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Old 15-03-2012, 10:04 PM
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..you guys

The Objective is an oil spaced triplet design with a central element of FPL53 glass.

This is the chance to own one beautiful scope worth every penny and then some

Go on...do it, you know you want to

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Old 15-03-2012, 10:21 PM
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Everyone, my bank account number is 34657497451985 and bsb is 7265 just throw as much money as you want on it so i can buy that scope
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Old 15-03-2012, 10:44 PM
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Old 15-03-2012, 10:46 PM
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As a guide, the nearest in quality and speck currently available is the Takahashi TOA 150 with 4" focuser and 4" field flattener, new this combo is approx US$13,000 from OPT in California (+ GST + shipping)

Every bit as good...but it just ain't an Astrophysics (sorry Marcus )

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Old 16-03-2012, 12:19 AM
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Mike,

I realise its all tongue in cheek and we all know you love your AP !! . . . and there is no dispute that AP's are good. no better than good - even great telescopes - but then you did say "arguably the Worlds finest 6" APO"

Since its sold now, a balancing argument can be put forward to argue if it is !! - and also for the benefit of others who may be looking for an OTA based purely on its optical and build quality merits rather than based on legend and cult following.

Why compare a new Tak OTA price with a second hand AP ?
Second hand TOA150's go for less than this secondhand AP on the same site !
#702128, #736121, #758161 with NJP !,

According to this one #733519 they are both (Tak and AP) worth a guitar !
A Gibson (ES-335 type) 'Lucille' guitar signed by BB King no less.
I cant really comment on that - DugnSuz, Fred where are you ?


What FF was he is selling btw - a 4" or 2.7"

What is the actual strehl ratio of that AP ?
What does the longitudinal plot look like ?
MTF too

Compare them side by side AP152EDF to Tak TOA150, I think you might be very surprised with the magnitude of the differences.
Will you detect that by eye - I am sure some say they could, but I doubt it
Would it show up in imaging - possibly, sometimes, but more as a contrast enhancement than anything and the seeing and FWHM of individual subs and the processing skills are going to count for much more.

But if so what are you basing the claim on - collectability, prestige, performance, quality ?
Having inspected the optical data I wonder if you would still say the Tak is the nearest to the AP of maybe the other way around ?

But then we could argue about Holdens and Fords, Carlton and Collingwood, APs Vs P-MEs . . . couldn't we.
or even FLI Vs SBIG - oops didnt mean to say that .

Dont take it too seriously - its not intended that way !



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Old 16-03-2012, 07:50 AM
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All good Rally, I'm with ya!

I do not for one moment claim to know that the 152EDF is quantitatively better than the TOA150.

But in the end, Astrophyiscs "does" have a prestige rating that is above that of Takahashi, APM and TEC plus Astrophyiscs no longer make 6" APO's of any design, it has produced many internationally acclaimed images and lastly this scope is one of only two of this model on Earth so to me it is indeed a special scope no matter how you measure it

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Old 16-03-2012, 08:07 AM
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All good !

I agree - when Roland finally ascends to the stars himself your AP will quite likely return a better payout than your super fund.

One argument is surely that if the optical quality is nearly indistinguishable from another - then go for the one that you like.

I'll take off that kevlar vest and hard hat now !!

Life's too short, never enough time nor enough money to get all those nice OTA's we would like to have !!

So what's next

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Old 16-03-2012, 08:22 AM
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Hi Mike
Isn't that about $10K more than you paid for yours , they are from Canberra observatory aren't they ?
I wouldn't take much notice of what the some yanks try to sell american made gear for I noticed a 16" Meade LX200 going for $26K

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No not mine

However, if you haven't noticed, the only other version on Earth, of my Starfire 152EDF with 4" field flattener, is For Sale on Astromart

See Classified #769408 in the refractor section

This is literally a once in a lifetime opportunity to own a two of a kind collectors item and arguably the Worlds finest 6" APO.

Personally I think the $10K price tag is an absolute bargain!

From a collectors perspective, it is not 100% original though as the owner changed the original 4" focuser for the more modern greaseless AP version with feathertouch.

Mike
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Old 16-03-2012, 09:05 AM
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It would make a fine guidescope for my RH200!


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Old 16-03-2012, 09:12 AM
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It would make a fine guidescope for my RH200!


Bert
Funny you should say that Bert, my little 200mm lens once had a great guidescope

http://www.pbase.com/strongmanmike20...42205/original

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Old 16-03-2012, 09:30 AM
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The end of your guidescope might show up in some of those subs Mike!
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Old 16-03-2012, 09:33 AM
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The end of your guidescope might show up in some of those subs Mike!
Naaah, tiny chip = small field, that was 2006, no big black ProLine then
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