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Old 07-03-2012, 09:46 PM
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Nikon D800 high ISO samples

These are very impressive:

http://nikonrumors.com/2012/03/05/an...px/#more-35120


Pretty good for so many pixels.

It should make a good shoot out between 5D mark iii and D800. The inevitable comparisons will hit the net within a month.

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Old 08-03-2012, 01:04 AM
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I'm on the cusp here. I can either shove more money into Canon gear or switch platforms (motly to gain high ISO performance and low-light AF).
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Old 08-03-2012, 01:36 AM
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Peter,

No need to fret; look at this: Canon EOS 5D Mark III - ISO 25,600 sample.

Preliminary reports suggest that this is even better than the Nikon D4 (at the same ISO), at almost twice the price.

Incredible, if you ask me.

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Old 08-03-2012, 10:03 AM
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MMMmmmmm......so many pixels...........tasty!

Maybe its time my well used (abused?) and ever reliable D200 needs replacing?
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Old 08-03-2012, 09:22 PM
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Sttop!
My brain hurts!!!
I'm on the cusp here. I can either shove more money into Canon gear or switch platforms (motly to gain high ISO performance and low-light AF).
Vey ist mir!
If you are not in a rush I suggest you wait until these cameras are actually in the hands of the public and full unbiased reviews are released.

I am sure they are all super cameras with their own strengths and weaknesses. And I quite sure the differences between them are probably not that much in the end. A bit like high end APO telescopes.

Canon 1Dx, Nikon D4, Canon 5D mark iii and Nikon D800 are so close in specs it really comes down to what you want to use it for.

1DX on paper sounds the better camera over the D4 but 5D mark iii and D800 isn't so clear. Its high MP high resolution versus low light performance otherwise the differences between the 2 cameras is miniscule. Also low light performance of each has to be verified. There are both good and weak examples of low light high ISO images for both cameras now. Nikon has a good track record as being the stronger of the 2 camera makers with regards to low light. But physics is physics and 36mp and 4.88 micron pixels (which are larger than the 7Ds by the way) should mean the 5D mark iii would be better in that regard. But if you are shooting landscapes the higher MP in normal daylight would be better. If shooting in low light then the 5D sounds the better. Action shots the 5D would be better. Neither is going to replace your Astro CCD camera anyway. Rightly or wrongly I am drawn to the 36mp with near medium format resolution for $3000 (the cheapest medium format camera is a Pentax 645 and its about $11,000). Low light autofocus though would be an easy win for the Nikons which are rated to F8 and the Canons to F5.6.

It seems the high end DSLR market is becoming quite specialised. 1DX may be best all round camera for all uses like it was intended except for size, weight and cost. 5D mark iii seems more of a superb all pupose camera. The sample images though lack the wow factor of the sample D800 images by a long way in my opinion if that comes at the cost of fast frames per second (which I wouldn't use hardly ever) but I would prefer excellent low light performance but its not a deal breaker in my case. I am sure either would outperform my 40D (which is excellent).

The other factor of course is lenses. You need to make up your own mind about these and which ones are better than others from each maker and which ones you would use. Novoflex adapters make them somewhat interchangeable between brands but you lose autofocus and automatic aperture control and image stabilisation.

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Old 08-03-2012, 11:25 PM
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Here is one site that does a comparison - Nikon D800 versus Canon 5D mark iii.

Conclusion he draws is that they are a tie and it depends on personal preference.

That's kind of the overall feeling I was getting about these 2 cameras.

Its like Astrophysics telescopes verus Talahashi. Either would be a fantastic camera.

http://www.expertphotography.com/can...-which-is-best

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Old 11-03-2012, 12:24 PM
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Nikon D800 and D800E RAW samples at high ISO.

Conclusion is ISO6400 is very useable. Plus with 36mp downsizing is possible to go higher and make them useable. These are RAWs without noise reduction, not in camera jpegs that have been noise reduced.

Seems 5D mark iii low noise high ISO advantage has been matched with D800 but oddly Nikon hasn't played that aspect up whilst Canon has pushed it hard. Obviously a marketing strategy when you've been outdone by your competitor.

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...0855240&page=1

My gut feeling now is that this D800 is going to be a massive win for Nikon (they are already experiencing massive demand for this camera)and will be untouchable by any other camera and a clear leader in the DSLR field. 36mp and a useable ISO6400 is a fantastic engineering achievement. Thanks should really go to Sony for making such a fabulous chip.

I am hoping to have one of these in less than 2 weeks. I'll post a review of it.

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