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Old 23-09-2011, 08:53 AM
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Possible FTL particles discovered

This is intersting stuff:

http://www.smh.com.au/technology/sci...923-1kntb.html

Maybe now we can get Zefram Cochrane to start work on his warp drive
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Old 23-09-2011, 09:09 AM
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Just need to be careful that at the Italian end there was a bit of Chianti drinking going on... and they somehow missed those few nano seconds
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Old 23-09-2011, 10:43 AM
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Or they might get sued
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-09-2...nation/2909804
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I think that Einstein would be pleased if his immutable law was found to be in error
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I would suspect that the neutrino traveled at the true light speed and the original measurements that are used as the standard are in error due to the way they were measured.

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Old 25-09-2011, 10:16 AM
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I would suspect that the neutrino traveled at the true light speed and the original measurements that are used as the standard are in error due to the way they were measured.

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They checked for that, Barry. Plus the experiment had been run 16000 times in the last 3 years. They've been trying to cover their backsides on this one. But you never know with this sort of thing.
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I would suspect that the neutrino traveled at the true light speed and the original measurements that are used as the standard are in error due to the way they were measured.

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If this were the case, then other labs are probably making the same errors also … in which case, eventually progress will be made not just by the CERN OPERA folk … but also by others doing the same elsewhere .. which would be a productive outcome !

From Physicsworld (just recently):
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In 2007 the MINOS experiment in the US looked at 473 neutrons that travelled from Fermilab near Chicago to a detector in northern Minnesota. MINOS physicists reported speeds similar to that seen by OPERA, but their experimental uncertainties were much larger. According to the OPERA researchers, their measurement of the neutrino velocity is 10 times better than previous neutrino accelerator experiments.
.. So, this has been measured before !

One can't really dismiss any of the possibilities until the results can be reproduced (or otherwise), elsewhere, within the same or better uncertainty margins.

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