NSW state-wide speed limit 90km/h?

glenc (Glen) · #1 14-12-2009, 02:56 PM

NSW NRMA’s regional director Graham Blight recently told the media that the RTA’s hidden agenda is to drop the state-wide speed limit to 90km/h. Mr Blight’s allegations came as the RTA dropped the speed limit on the Newell Highway fell from 110km/h in places to 100 on December 1. Mr Blight suggests the RTA’s first step in this process is to get rid of 110km/h zones that aren’t on divided roads (read: freeways and motorways).
http://www.caradvice.com.au/50781/ns...d-limit-90kmh/

Outbackmanyep · #2 14-12-2009, 03:03 PM

The RTA need to go have a good hard look at themselves, the problem is not SPEED it's the IDIOTS! Sounds like the RTA is full of them!

Add to this, when has the RTA EVER considered MORE overtaking lanes?? Probably NEVER!

Benno85 (Ben) · #3 14-12-2009, 03:21 PM

Watch the retailers and supermarkets pass on a price rise for the "slower" trucks if this gets passed.

mozzie (Peter) · #4 14-12-2009, 03:35 PM

theres some real problems there weather its the roads or speed or other factors to many people are dieing or getting injured i dont know of a solution but something needs to be done
mozzie

rat156 · #5 14-12-2009, 03:47 PM

The problem isn't speed, it lack of driving skill and too many obstacles on the side of the road. Are the road death and injury statistics far worse in Germany where there are Autobahns, where there is no speed restrictions? The answer is no, because people drive at a speed that they are comfortable with and suitable to the road and conditions. I routinely drive faster than 160 kmh in a 30+ year old car, I have never died yet. The State and Federal governments collect about $160M/day in tax from fuel alone (approx $0.40/litre, 400Ml/day), how about putting some back into driver education and better roads...

Cheers
Stuart

pgc hunter · #6 14-12-2009, 04:24 PM

This is sick. Why there is so much emphasis on speed in this country is just beyond me.

Doesn't this overbearing nanny state understand that it's drunks, idiots, and REAL speeders (people actually doing several 10's of k's over the limit) that are the real problem? Ofcourse not, because these don't bring in revenue, unlike the innocent driver who was snapped by big brother revenue camera on a 10 lane freeway doing 3 over the limit

Here is Sab's Formula:

Lower speed limits on 100km straight wide roads and freeways = people more likely to "speed" (note quotations) = more revenue. Simple.

Why don't we just ban cars altogether and limit walking speed to 0.001km/h? That might make the PC latte sipping communist mob in parliament happy

Peter Ward · #7 14-12-2009, 04:31 PM

Arrrggghhhhh!

Outbackmanyep · #8 14-12-2009, 04:56 PM

On rural roads i have seen plenty of people overtaking in the wrong places, now wether it's because the drivers are stupid or they don't know the road or both then i cannot answer.
The problem is that people get annoyed when the limit is 100kmh and there is a vehicle towing a caravan doing 80 and people can't get around them.....this is where accidents occur!
Why not put more overtaking lanes in to alleviate the traffic flow problem, on rural roads there are not enough of them!

When i travel to Sydney i head along the Bucketts Way, between Nowendoc and Gloucester there are only TWO places i know that you can overtake safely, now logging trucks traverse this tight winding road all the time, and there are no safe areas with overtaking lanes to get past them....so idiots (and i have seen plenty) try to get around them on blind curves and crests and don't give a stuff about who or what is coming the other way.

The RTA need to look at this a bit harder, especially in rural areas!

Louwai (Bryan) · #9 14-12-2009, 05:16 PM

Yep.
It's the idiots & people that can't drive that are the problem.
Idiots that think they are indestructable.
Idiots that just don't think.
People that don't have the ability of foresight.
People that don't give a crap about anyone else on the road except themselves.
People that have no concept of speed or cornering.
People that don't have the faintest idea what their vehicle capabilities or limitations are.
People that can't read the traffic or the conditions.

THEY are the problem. Not speed.

So many people say to me that I'm crazy riding a motorcycle because they are soooo dangerous. The only time a motorcycle is dangerous is when there's an idiot in charge of it.
Exactly the same as a car, or truck or scooter. Or a boat for that matter.

seanliddelow (Sean) · #10 14-12-2009, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Louwai

Yep.
It's the idiots & people that can't drive that are the problem.
Idiots that think they are indestructable.
Idiots that just don't think.
People that don't have the ability of foresight.
People that don't give a crap about anyone else on the road except themselves.
People that have no concept of speed or cornering.
People that don't have the faintest idea what their vehicle capabilities or limitations are.
People that can't read the traffic or the conditions.

THEY are the problem. Not speed.

So many people say to me that I'm crazy riding a motorcycle because they are soooo dangerous. The only time a motorcycle is dangerous is when there's an idiot in charge of it.
Exactly the same as a car, or truck or scooter. Or a boat for that matter.

No matter what you say the people in Perth are still 10 times worse.
They cant go around roundabouts and we have roundabouts every second street

Also you get the Sunday drivers who go 25km/h under the speed limit

OzRob (Rob) · #11 14-12-2009, 05:43 PM

I think they should make the speed limit 10km/hr everywhere!!!...

Quote:

Originally Posted by seanliddelow

No matter what you say the people in Perth are still 10 times worse.

I'm from Perth but now live in Thailand. If you want to see idiots come spend some time here. The worst thing are the idiots on motorbikes (and that is most of them) who think they own the road. If you are sitting with your indicator on to turn right the idiots on bikes will overtake you on the right. Likewise, when you are turning left you better check that you are not being overtaken on the left be a motorbike before you turn...

BTW if you do come here don't think that those white lines across the road give pedestrians the right of way on the road. If you think like that it will hurt....

AstralTraveller (David) · #12 14-12-2009, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outbackmanyep

On rural roads i have seen plenty of people overtaking in the wrong places, now wether it's because the drivers are stupid or they don't know the road or both then i cannot answer.
The problem is that people get annoyed when the limit is 100kmh and there is a vehicle towing a caravan doing 80 and people can't get around them.....this is where accidents occur!
Why not put more overtaking lanes in to alleviate the traffic flow problem, on rural roads there are not enough of them!

When i travel to Sydney i head along the Bucketts Way, between Nowendoc and Gloucester there are only TWO places i know that you can overtake safely, now logging trucks traverse this tight winding road all the time, and there are no safe areas with overtaking lanes to get past them....so idiots (and i have seen plenty) try to get around them on blind curves and crests and don't give a stuff about who or what is coming the other way.

The RTA need to look at this a bit harder, especially in rural areas!

I agree with most of this but also believe that no matter how bad the road, no matter how big a goose the bloke in front is, that is not an excuse to drive unsafely. Delays and slow traffic are a fact of life and one needs to allow for that when planning a trip. If a driver can't tolerate the least little delay they should take a long hard look at themselves. There are plenty of technically compatent drivers out there who I would ban on the basis of their bad attitude.

I had a '47 series troopie for 24 years and so I've had plenty of experience being the slow vehicle. I never tried to hold up other traffic but being polite isn't always as easy as some might think. Places where one can pull to the side are rarer than you might think, particularly on winding hilly roads (and especially considering the space I needed when carrying >1 tonne in the back). Then I've had drivers tailgate so close I could only see their roof. How can you think of touching the brakes under those conditions? (And why should I be polite to idiots like that anyway?) On other occassions I've been doing 95 on a dual carrageway and moved to the right lane to pass a truck doing about 80-90. After getting a safe distance in front of the truck I've wanted to move back to the left lane only to find some goose is trying to sqeeze between me and the truck so he can pass me on the left. What is wrong with people that they would risk an accident to save 5 seconds?

BTW The other day I observed someone back a car down the driveway of the house diagonally across from me and park it, rather inexpertly, in front of my house. Another bloke was standing on the footpath and directed the driver where to park. The driver then got out of the car and hopped into the drivers seat of another car parked on the road and the bloke on the footpath got into the car which had been backed out of the driveway. Both cars then drove off together. My interpretation of the scene is that the driver of the car in the driveway cannot reverse a car. This may explain why the little buzz bomb didn't have a straight panel on it!! I'm glad I park off the road.

supernova1965 (Warren) · #13 14-12-2009, 06:22 PM

There is a joke about cars in Mackay

Q: Why are cars in Mackay $5000.00 dollars cheaper than anywhere else in Australia.

A: They come without rearview mirrors and blinkers.

glenc (Glen) · #14 14-12-2009, 06:37 PM

Please note that you can vote for more than one option.

GrahamL · #15 14-12-2009, 08:50 PM

I'd be happy to see 80KM/h round holiday time on the pacific hwy through the x-mass break round here.

and heres the reason

Quote:

It's the idiots & people that can't drive that are the problem.
Idiots that think they are indestructable.
Idiots that just don't think.
People that don't have the ability of foresight.
People that don't give a crap about anyone else on the road except themselves.
People that have no concept of speed or cornering.
People that don't have the faintest idea what their vehicle capabilities or limitations are.
People that can't read the traffic or the conditions.

every year this attitude from sydney and brisbane meet around here
.. and to be honest the "HWY" around this bit of coast is mostly no more than an old bullock track (circa 1900's) thats been widened and sealed, A surveyer told me this 20 years back , make no mistake the drivers round my way are just as screwed up as everywhere else ... please don't get scooped up and hosed off the road up north this year.. it happens way to often on the holidays

stephenb (Stephen) · #16 14-12-2009, 10:14 PM

A lot of drivers do not know how to drive within their limits and the limits of the driving conditions.

Speed (and fatalites) can be the result caused by the inaction of my previous sentence.

Kevnool (Kev) · #17 14-12-2009, 10:15 PM

How about observing the heavens .........Who cares about gossip.

Starman73 · #18 14-12-2009, 10:16 PM

Hello All,

Rob, I was in Thailand March this year. I must say that I was very impressed with the drivers in Thailand, yes there were some idiots but by and large with the traffic and the shear number of vehicles (and by that I mean push carts too) on the road I don't think I saw one accident, and the taxis, I don't think I really saw one that had damage on it. After being in Bangkok I saw to never complain about Sydney traffic again.

On the subject of speed, its a known fact that in the NT when they didn't have speed limits on the majority of roads they had less accidents. Also the roads there aren't as good for the speeds people drive, but the accident rate and road toll are far less, meaning that the roads aren't the problem, its the idiots on them.

Paul

stephenb (Stephen) · #19 14-12-2009, 10:20 PM

I do not want to bag anyone from NSW, but I recently drove from Melbourne to Young, and the NSW half of the Hume Freeway is 20 years behind Victoria's half. What a shocking road for a National Highway! What has your State Governments been doing all this time????

We have some pretty poor planning down here in the Nanny State but at least we have an efficient and reliable train system. Oh wait....

Louwai (Bryan) · #20 14-12-2009, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glenluceskies

I do not want to bag anyone from NSW, but I recently drove from Melbourne to Young, and the NSW half of the Hume Freeway is 20 years behind Victoria's half. What a shocking road for a National Highway! What has your State Governments been doing all this time????

We have some pretty poor planning down here in the Nanny State but at least we have an efficient and reliable train system. Oh wait....

You obviously haven't driven from Brisbane to Cairns. !!! Most of it is still single lane each way.