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Old 09-06-2011, 10:27 AM
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along with a few others we had a lucky weekend after being invited to stay with a friend near Lake Glenmaggie in East Gippsland. it was cloudy across most of the state later on saturday night but in westerly winds we were on the right side of the divide and had clear skies all night.

i hadn't planned for the night very well so it was a late decision to choose NGC6188 prompted by somebody else. it wasn't until i finished the processing at home that i realised this is the same area as mike's fighting dragons in ara (can you tell i haven't imaged this area before? ). the HA component looks great on its own but still not all that happy with the colour balance after mixing 25% into this:

http://philhart.com/gallery/Astropho...C6188.jpg.html

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Old 09-06-2011, 10:50 AM
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This area deffinitely looks best in wide field woose - viva la fast Newt's

Lovely shot Phil, can even make out the dragons

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Old 09-06-2011, 01:00 PM
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Great field Phil - very nicely done.
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Old 09-06-2011, 01:50 PM
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Nice wide field there Phil. Good work
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Old 09-06-2011, 02:53 PM
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Very nicely done Phil!
Great contrast and good use of your Ha data.

Good to see a Epsilon in use by a southerner!
A friend in the states had one and some of his images were just outstanding...

Yes I second that Mike......
Go the fast newts

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Old 09-06-2011, 03:14 PM
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I like the result there Phil but as you say you can get a more impactful colour going.

What you've got there is your classic Ha as luminance red washout that turns the reds a bit salmon coloured.

Here is a detailed post of how I do Ha (for what its worth) its really one of two approaches but in the end they really do much the same thing.

My approach is Ha in red, Ha in blue (10%) in lighten layers and Ha in luminance using luminosity mode.

This essentially is the same as doing a blend of Ha and luminance and then using that as the luminance and combining Ha and red and using that as the red.

My way you can save it as a psd file with all the various layers and come back to it later if you don't like it.

You also control the red using curves. This is similar to Tony Hallas and Russell Croman tutorials on the subject.

I sometimes use a few other tweaks but not that important, this is the guts of it:

See my post about 5 down from the end for detailed instructions;

http://www.iceinspace.com.au/forum/s...ad.php?t=76539

I got my Pentax 67 lens adapter today for my FLI proline and pdf focuser so looking to give you some competition for Malins in the widefield category hehehe. Hey, you've got plenty of awards to share around!

By the way I missed that 300mm EDIF, he sold it someone just before me. Its OK I can't afford it at the moment anyway.

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Old 10-06-2011, 12:07 PM
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thanks guys.

i went back and had another go. i already had some HA as red in a lighten layer etc but played with Greg's tips for awhile. in the end the thing that helped the most was increasing the contrast on my RGB data. i've also got my star colours back.. hadn't noticed how much i screwed them up in my haste last time. have updated the file at same link as before:

http://philhart.com/gallery/Astropho...geViewsIndex=1

i'm much happier with this version..

Phil

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Old 10-06-2011, 06:07 PM
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Very nice Phil. Lovely detail for such a wide field. That little bit of Tak downpipe does a great job.
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:02 PM
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Excellent Phil

Superb capture, image scale and processing.
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Old 10-06-2011, 08:28 PM
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Very nice Phil. Lovely detail for such a wide field. That little bit of Tak downpipe does a great job.
thanks Doug.. yes this bit of downpipe has served me well but i know an 8300 sensor is already pushing its limits. definitely can't take anything larger. i think this is one of the best images i've taken with it from a technical point of view.

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Excellent Phil

Superb capture, image scale and processing.
thanks Peter. that's high praise from a keen set of eyes.
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Amazing photo Phil.

The colour, detail and sharpness draw you in.


Thanks.

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thanks guys.

i went back and had another go. i already had some HA as red in a lighten layer etc but played with Greg's tips for awhile. in the end the thing that helped the most was increasing the contrast on my RGB data. i've also got my star colours back.. hadn't noticed how much i screwed them up in my haste last time. have updated the file at same link as before:

http://philhart.com/gallery/Astropho...geViewsIndex=1

i'm much happier with this version..

Phil
Ah yes, there it is - gorgeous! A fabulous result.

I think that is one of those tweaks that some images need - the RGB layer needs the saturation boosted pretty high to survive the weakening effect of Ha as luminosity or even Ha as red and blue layers.

You shot this with the perfect field of view for this object.

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Old 14-06-2011, 05:22 PM
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Wonderful work,love the contrast.
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Top shot alright Phil. Nice going
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Lovely shot Phil.

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