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Old 13-02-2011, 07:21 PM
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Spiders-new 5D 1st light

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1st go at macro with my new Canon 5D mk2 and EF 24-70mm f2.8L lens.

I dont really know what Im doing, thats why they the composition is odd, and wrong bits are in focus (geez the depth of field is small in macro ).

The cam and lenses (also have a 70-200mm f2.8L) are a huge leap from what im used to, and they are a joy to use (albiet the lenses are large and heavy) . f2.8 especially was a big supprise.

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I have no idea what kind of spiders these are.

400 ISO on a very cloudy day in the Karingai national park.

I keen to get better at this, given it works well in cloud, unlike another form of photography that springs to mind , so hints welcome .
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Old 14-02-2011, 09:18 AM
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Very nice Fred.

Welcome to 5D-II ownership. Nice lenses indeed - ideal setup. I have the EF 24-105mm f/4 L IS USM which I love, but really should have gone down the same path as you. One day...

Interesting reading - 24-105 f/4 vs 24-70 f/2.8: http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re...s/28-105.shtml
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Old 14-02-2011, 09:56 AM
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Thanks Chris

Humayun's pics pretty much convinced me on what to get. Ill be happy if I can get even close to his efforts.

Yes, interesting link. Staight away I noticed the viewfinder brightness with f2.8 as he says, and even in very cloudy conditions I could hand hold every shot. As I hope to do astro timelape also, f2.8 seemed worth the expence.

I just found this http://thomasshahan.com/photos . Gaud ive got a long way to go!.
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Old 14-02-2011, 08:10 PM
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Sweet captures for a non Macro dedicated lens, good work. Be careful, next you'll own a Canon 100mm Macro F2.8, then the MPE-65 up to 5x macro), then you'll want the MT-24ex for better lighting. At F2.8 and fast shutter, DOF is tiny, experiment a little- take it out to F11-14, slow the shutter speed down and drop the ISO. Take it out at night and use on camera flash and a torch to highlight what you are trying to capture (makes it a lot easier to focus). Ohh I forgot, a good 2x Teleconverter is a handy addition, but a full set of tubes will serve you better. I am a big fan of macro photography (particularly snakes and lizards)- your imagination is your only limiting factor. Have a look at POTN, they have a great bunch of guys on there willing to help and also access to some awesome tutorials. Enjoy, as I am sure you will.

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Old 14-02-2011, 11:00 PM
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Very sharp arachnids Fred!
Not too sure how the 24-70 will go for astro work - I recently sold mine as it didn't do it for me - I had bought it for its daytime reputation and hoped that would be replicated under the stars...didn't work out.
That said, time lapse work is a different beastie so the same rules might not apply.
I miss that big hunk of glass for daytime stuff though - it really is a monster of a lens.
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Old 14-02-2011, 11:39 PM
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Fred,

Welcome aboard.

Good start on your first light images.

And, humbled that my images inspired you to get the kit. : )

Now, all you need to do is go and chase great light. : )

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Old 15-02-2011, 09:56 AM
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Sweet captures for a non Macro dedicated lens, good work. Be careful, next you'll own a Canon 100mm Macro F2.8, then the MPE-65 up to 5x macro), then you'll want the MT-24ex for better lighting. At F2.8 and fast shutter, DOF is tiny, experiment a little- take it out to F11-14, slow the shutter speed down and drop the ISO. Take it out at night and use on camera flash and a torch to highlight what you are trying to capture (makes it a lot easier to focus). Ohh I forgot, a good 2x Teleconverter is a handy addition, but a full set of tubes will serve you better. I am a big fan of macro photography (particularly snakes and lizards)- your imagination is your only limiting factor. Have a look at POTN, they have a great bunch of guys on there willing to help and also access to some awesome tutorials. Enjoy, as I am sure you will.

Regards, Dutch
Yes, a flash would be nice (ring?). It was cloudy, so I left it on auto but I get yr point, I should have stoped it down and used a tripod. It occured to me later to take a focus stack too, with a tripod. Pity the 5D doesnt have bracketed focus (does any DSLR?). Thomas Shahan takes macro HDR, which sounds (and looks) interesting, but would need a lot of subs for a focus stack, and I suppose H wouldnt approve .

Some handy hints there Dutch, thanks.

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Very sharp arachnids Fred!
Not too sure how the 24-70 will go for astro work - I recently sold mine as it didn't do it for me - I had bought it for its daytime reputation and hoped that would be replicated under the stars...didn't work out.
That said, time lapse work is a different beastie so the same rules might not apply.
I miss that big hunk of glass for daytime stuff though - it really is a monster of a lens.
Doug
Thanks Doug. I didnt want to hear that re astro, astro will be part of the timelapse, but not the full on long exposure-stacked routine. Its the 70-200 f2.8 that is big and heavy ( I didnt mind the 24-70 weight), although it will be mostly on a mount/tripod. Neither have IS.

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Fred,

Welcome aboard.

Good start on your first light images.

And, humbled that my images inspired you to get the kit. : )

Now, all you need to do is go and chase great light. : )

H
Thanks H, yes thats the key, its the light that counts . I havent seen any IR timelapse on the net anywhere yet, might give that a go 1st, givent it really showcases cloud structure. IR cloud video should look spectacular.
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Old 15-02-2011, 01:07 PM
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Thanks Doug. I didnt want to hear that re astro, astro will be part of the timelapse, but not the full on long exposure-stacked routine. Its the 70-200 f2.8 that is big and heavy ( I didnt mind the 24-70 weight), although it will be mostly on a mount/tripod. Neither have IS.
Sorry for being Captain Bringdown!
I probably threw in the towel a little early re astro work with this lens so my comment should be taken with that in mind.
The IR time lapse stuff sounds very interesting.
All the best
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