Go Back   IceInSpace > Images > Deep Space
Register FAQ Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
Thread Tools Rate Thread
  #1  
Old 14-09-2010, 07:31 PM
Bassnut's Avatar
Bassnut (Fred)
Narrowfield rules!

Bassnut is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Torquay
Posts: 5,065
NGC2080 Ghost head nebula, many stars

Hi Guys

Here is NGC2080 Ghost head nebula in colour mapped narrowband (I dont get the ghost head part at all ).

Its a straight SII:Ha:OIII mapped as RGB with too many seperate RGB stars inserted, for those that just must have them in everything . The seperate filter images were so different, I couldnt use Ha as lum. Yes I know blending options are possible, I just thought id go with RGB given the poor data.

I cant find anywhere on the web anything even remotely close to this FOV, I have no idea why. The images I can find look totally different and all seem to be from the same source.

It was very dim, hence the lack of detail, no sharpening at all. This effort has been a hard lesson. I took some 8hrs of Ha bin1 and 5hrs of SII, OIII bin2 and found the Ha bin1 had no detail advantage at all, was a waste of time, wouldve had better signal with Ha bin2 with no loss of res at this FL (2250mm).

The image scale at bin1 is 0.62 arc/secs (6.80 um pixels) and at bin2 1.25 arc/secs. Bin 1 is a complete waste of time with 3 arc/sec seeing unless you have very clean signal that can stand huge amounts of deconvolute and sharpenning.

I will from now on do bin2 all up for the dim stuff, untill I get a 17" .
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 14-09-2010, 07:39 PM
multiweb's Avatar
multiweb (Marc)
ze frogginator

multiweb is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: Sydney
Posts: 22,080
Very cool details and colors. Here's one field that looks similar.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 14-09-2010, 07:48 PM
Bassnut's Avatar
Bassnut (Fred)
Narrowfield rules!

Bassnut is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Torquay
Posts: 5,065
Ahh, there you go, thanks for that Marc. But mmm, for a scope that size, that looks pretty ordinary
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 14-09-2010, 07:49 PM
strongmanmike's Avatar
strongmanmike (Michael)
Highest Observatory in Oz

strongmanmike is offline
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Canberra
Posts: 17,689
I could make some flippant derogatory remark and follow it with a and a but I will attempt to curb this tide .....

Looks very interesting Fred, a crazy challenge for sure but you have produced a colourful ghostly looking image, nice.

Hope you don't mind Fred but for those not familiar with this bit of nebula, it is near the Tarantula Nebula - the top left area of nebulosity in this image with a more familiar framing

Typical but nice work Fred

Mike
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 14-09-2010, 08:22 PM
Bassnut's Avatar
Bassnut (Fred)
Narrowfield rules!

Bassnut is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Torquay
Posts: 5,065
Possibly flippant, but always considered Mike, dont get precious with me now. Tough love is better than "nice".

In return, Im always ready for a trashing, give it, get it.

Mind ?, of course not. Ive composed every which way, not sure if this FOV is in yr image, might be mostly just out of the edge of yr image.

I might add, that you will no dought cream my efforts with your new scope. I dread the day .
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 14-09-2010, 08:29 PM
TrevorW
Registered User

TrevorW is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Western Australia
Posts: 8,284
Nice one Fred
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 14-09-2010, 08:33 PM
Bassnut's Avatar
Bassnut (Fred)
Narrowfield rules!

Bassnut is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Torquay
Posts: 5,065
Quote:
Originally Posted by TrevorW View Post
Nice
Ahh Trevor, top come back (intended or not, thats OK, thanks )
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 14-09-2010, 08:40 PM
strongmanmike's Avatar
strongmanmike (Michael)
Highest Observatory in Oz

strongmanmike is offline
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Canberra
Posts: 17,689
Quote:
Possibly flippant, but always considered Mike, dont get precious with me now. Tough love is better than "nice".

In return, Im always ready for a trashing, give it, get it.
Considered???.. my R's! com'on who you tryin to kid

What is the point of trashing an image, as you put it , are we trying to emulate Stan Zemanek or something?

Quote:
Mind ? of course not. Ive composed every which way, not sure if this FOV is in yr image, might be mostly just out of the edge of yr image.
It is right there, all of it, in my (yes it's mine ) image

Quote:
I might add, that you will no dought cream my efforts with your new scope. I dread the day .
Not cream, just different, horses for courses. I would love a 17" CDK too you know

Mike
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 14-09-2010, 08:49 PM
Bassnut's Avatar
Bassnut (Fred)
Narrowfield rules!

Bassnut is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Torquay
Posts: 5,065
Quote:
Originally Posted by strongmanmike View Post
What is the point of trashing an image, as you put it

Mike
Semantics, you know what I mean.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 14-09-2010, 08:59 PM
strongmanmike's Avatar
strongmanmike (Michael)
Highest Observatory in Oz

strongmanmike is offline
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Canberra
Posts: 17,689
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bassnut View Post
Semantics, you know what I mean.
I know you drink to much

ED: will refrain from posting the usual image of mad hair Fred.
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 14-09-2010, 09:00 PM
Bassnut's Avatar
Bassnut (Fred)
Narrowfield rules!

Bassnut is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Torquay
Posts: 5,065
Yes, and Yes, thanks.
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 14-09-2010, 09:18 PM
Omaroo's Avatar
Omaroo (Chris Malikoff)
Let there be night...

Omaroo is offline
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Hobart, TAS
Posts: 7,639
As usual, I like it Fred. Different is good in my book.

Ghost Head? I reckon "Genie Nebula"... coming out of its bottle. LOL!

Blink these two...
Attached Thumbnails
Click for full-size image (genie2.jpg)
148.8 KB21 views
Click for full-size image (genie.jpg)
149.7 KB23 views
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 14-09-2010, 09:21 PM
seeker372011's Avatar
seeker372011 (Narayan)
6EQUJ5

seeker372011 is offline
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Sydney
Posts: 3,663
always great to see something different

some time ago I saw a Hubble image of this object and thought what a great target..nice to see an amateur image..even if it looks so different...
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 14-09-2010, 09:49 PM
Bassnut's Avatar
Bassnut (Fred)
Narrowfield rules!

Bassnut is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Torquay
Posts: 5,065
Quote:
Originally Posted by Omaroo View Post
As usual, I like it Fred. Different is good in my book.

Ghost Head? I reckon "Genie Nebula"... coming out of its bottle. LOL!

Blink these two...
Hehe, looks like a stunned monkey , thanks Chris.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 14-09-2010, 09:52 PM
Bassnut's Avatar
Bassnut (Fred)
Narrowfield rules!

Bassnut is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Torquay
Posts: 5,065
Thanks Narayan, the different worries me, makes me think I butchered it or something.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 14-09-2010, 10:03 PM
p1taylor's Avatar
p1taylor
Registered User

p1taylor is offline
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: coventry uk
Posts: 734
not butchered very good.

peter
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 14-09-2010, 10:14 PM
Bassnut's Avatar
Bassnut (Fred)
Narrowfield rules!

Bassnut is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Torquay
Posts: 5,065
Thanks for the vote of confidence Peter, much appreciated.
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 14-09-2010, 10:18 PM
irwjager's Avatar
irwjager (Ivo)
Registered User

irwjager is offline
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Melbourne
Posts: 532
Nice effort and, like seeker372011 I'm always very happy to see something I haven't seen before.

I gotta agree with you though that the image resolution, is indeed too large for the amount of detailed contained (a high pass filter yielded nothing but the stars, which says it all). Still, lovely to look at when you resize it to 1/3!

The image is already nice and noise free, and I know I haven't been able to sell it to you in the past, but since the deed is done and you got nothing to lose, how about software binning your data and using that extra data to pump up your levels?

Regardless, always a pleasure seeing your work - like this image, it's usually more 'out there' than what's otherwise on offer.

Last edited by irwjager; 15-09-2010 at 07:44 AM.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 14-09-2010, 10:34 PM
gregbradley's Avatar
gregbradley
Registered User

gregbradley is offline
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Sydney
Posts: 18,185
I like it Fred. A good object not normally imaged which is hard to find in itself.

Impactful.

Greg.
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 15-09-2010, 11:47 AM
Bassnut's Avatar
Bassnut (Fred)
Narrowfield rules!

Bassnut is offline
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Torquay
Posts: 5,065
Thanks Ivo. Im still poking around with doubling sub size before combine (lots of RAM!), doubling before decon, and in PS before sharpening. Even times 4 makes a big difference, but again needs much RAM with mutiple layers and masks. Software binning is on the list, but im wary and havent tried it yet.

Thanks Greg. This would be an absolute cracker with your 17" !. Theres a lot more stringy dust lane detail there that was buried in noise in my subs.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +10. The time is now 11:56 PM.

Powered by vBulletin Version 3.8.7 | Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement
Bintel
Advertisement
Astrophotography Prize
Advertisement