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02-07-2010, 06:34 PM
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And the list grows...
Banned activities and objects in Oz...
Fireworks, cap guns, pop guns, spud guns...well any sort of gun ( even "scary" look alikes), slingshots, lasers, glowplug powered areoplanes (in parks), turbo powered cars for P-Platers (...but a Ferrari 458 is just fine), nail clippers & normal-sized tubes of toothpaste on aeroplanes...(well...lots of things on aeroplanes, including knitting needles...personally I think the food will get you first) ....I digress, photographing Uluru and for that matter- Sydney Harbour, photographing children at school events (including your own), radar detectors (despite the correlation between their use and lower crash rates), view non "Government approved" websites (if that brain-dead Conroy gets his way). You can call someone a *******, but can't mention their race/colour/religion/sex in the same sentence, but in the West you can call someone a "Pommy *******" ( officially a term of endearment in W.A.). Let's see, what else? Climb trees, prune trees, work in the middle of no-where without a day-glow vest/hardhat/goggles (or all three), ride a pushbike without a helmet, change a light bulb (unless you are an electrician), smoke with a child in the car..but they can light up if they wish..... Any I've missed? Yep, a truly free and democratic society....
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02-07-2010, 06:40 PM
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...packing anything with nuts in your kids lunchbox!
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02-07-2010, 07:05 PM
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Over my life I must have done/had all of the above, including (shock horror) taking a deadly peanut butter sandwich to school.
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02-07-2010, 07:22 PM
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Over my life I must have done/had all of the above, including (shock horror) taking a deadly peanut butter sandwich to school.
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 Peanut butter on white bread was never a problem for me. It was the Salami on rye with gerkin ...which I still enjoy immensely.. that caused me the most grief..as the other kids called it wog food! Thankfully some things have changed for the better
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02-07-2010, 07:25 PM
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Its not the rules, its the good citizens (us) that sue when things go pair shaped with "no success no fee" blood sucking legal teams.
Councils have to ban everything, or they are liable. Its the way things are nowadays unforch. A local mayor actually said publically on radio, "sure, have a street party, but please please just dont tell us, we will keep well away even if we find out. But if you tell us you will, we will have to shut you down due to liabilty issues".
The problem is not with the gov, its with US, gone are the days when you dust yourself off and move on with a misshap, WE sue now.
A "friend" tripped on a footpath, broke a leg, and successfully sued the council for $20k !.
Another aquaintence (pissed, her fault) fell off my Harley parked in my back yard and claimed $2k off my pub liability insurance for a "cosmetic injury" gash on a leg that healed within a mth.
I didnt even know she had done this untill a year later when my insurance company mentioned this in passing when I rang them on renewing. I asked them "why didnt you tell me at the time", reply, "it happens all the time, we didnt bother you with it, its not worth contesting".
Peter, what would you do if your child was injured on a swing in the local park and a smart ass lawyer promised a fat return for no fee he?.
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02-07-2010, 07:26 PM
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Seriously,if my 10yo daughter ever took a peanut anything to school there would be serious trouble indeed !
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/new...-1225825025812
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Originally Posted by Peter Ward
 Peanut butter on white bread was never a problem for me. It was the Salami on rye with gerkin ...which I still enjoy immensely.. that caused me the most grief..as the other kids called it wog food! Thankfully some things have changed for the better 
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02-07-2010, 07:37 PM
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Peter, what would you do if your child was injured on a swing in the local park and a smart ass lawyer promised a fat return for no fee he?.
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I first be asking my son (now 24) WTF were you doing on the kiddy swing??
But yes, I take your point Fred, it seems being responsible for your own folly is the one thing our flaccid legislators are not interested in.
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02-07-2010, 07:41 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Ward
 Peanut butter on white bread was never a problem for me. It was the Salami on rye with gerkin ...which I still enjoy immensely..
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Live dangerously Peter - dip your gerkin in some peanut butter!
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02-07-2010, 07:49 PM
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Ah if only we could go back in time & assassinate the first American to say "so sue me".
Oops that's one more nail in this threads coffin, hope you won't sue me Peter.
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Live dangerously Peter - dip your gerkin in some peanut butter!
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And that could be construed as another...
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02-07-2010, 07:56 PM
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I had a nice .22 air rifle, put a sail on a billy cart and zoomed up and down the street. When riding my bike to school I would hold on to the back of a truck while going up hill.
I used to make hydrogen to blow stuff up.
We used to burn off rubbish & cuttings in the back yard. My folks fitted 2 adults and 7 kids in a EK station wagon without seatbelts while burning leaded petrol (with Benzine). We even used to have a ciggy on the plane !
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02-07-2010, 08:07 PM
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Peter, are you President of the Anarchist Society
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02-07-2010, 08:08 PM
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How's this a $1000 fine for letting your dog swim in an artificial salt water lake and yet they let humans swim in it
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02-07-2010, 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by DavidU
I had a nice .22 air rifle, put a sail on a billy cart and zoomed up and down the street. When riding my bike to school I would hold on to the back of a truck while going up hill.
I used to make hydrogen to blow stuff up.
We used to burn off rubbish & cuttings in the back yard. My folks fitted 2 adults and 7 kids in a EK station wagon without seatbelts while burning leaded petrol (with Benzine). We even used to have a ciggy on the plane !
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Do any of that today and you'll in the slammer with the murderers, rapists, pedos and almost certainly with a longer sentence to boot.
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Any I've missed? Yep, a truly free and democratic society....
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Here in Bubblewrapville, leaving your own bloody car unlocked is a crime worthy of a $175 fine. My god, they really are running out of ways to milk us. What next, put a levy on the amount of steps we walk each day?
Peter, you should be the prime minister, not these rabid protectionist creatures infecting every aspect of our lives. You'd put them in their place....on a desert island hopefully
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02-07-2010, 08:22 PM
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David the explanation is simple really, can even be summed up in one word...."Insurance". Schools are public institutions that must obey the law when it comes to public liability. As an educator I can tell you how paranoid admin types are when things go wrong. I have been on a camp where a kid broke his leg. Did we call for an ambulance first???? No the first person to be notified is the principle who will get out of bed at 3.00 am and drive 500 miles to the site. Our staff room is wall papered with pics of kids and their million and one ailments which we must be aware of even if we don't teach them. At the start of each year we get a bundle of confidential papers along with our class lists which we must memorise and destroy   . I cannot give a child a panadol if they have a headache, this can only be done by a member of staff who the principle has delegated that task to (school nurse usually) and if the parent has not signed on the dotted line the kid can suffer as tablets will not be given. All medications must be dispensed by the same person. If a kid has an anaphylactic fit I even as a qualified first aid trainer cannot administer the epipen, only the delegate can do that. I can however hand the kid the pen whilst they role around on the ground choking and fitting in the hope they might accidently stab themselves with it. Why? Insurance agencies dictate terms to minimise their risk. Principles seen as negligent (procedures not in place) will be sacked. The result flows right through the staff down to the play ground. Blanket rules are instated under legal guidence from the relative education authority and if you do not comply it's the end of the line. It's a mad world alright.
Mark
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02-07-2010, 08:23 PM
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HAHAHAHAHA !!! very funny sab. 
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02-07-2010, 08:23 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidU
I had a nice .22 air rifle, put a sail on a billy cart and zoomed up and down the street. When riding my bike to school I would hold on to the back of a truck while going up hill.
I used to make hydrogen to blow stuff up.
We used to burn off rubbish & cuttings in the back yard. My folks fitted 2 adults and 7 kids in a EK station wagon without seatbelts while burning leaded petrol (with Benzine). We even used to have a ciggy on the plane !
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...and that concludes the case for the prosecution M'Lord!
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02-07-2010, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Peter Ward
But yes, I take your point Fred.
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Ah huh...I suspect that should any one of a number of the things that you mention above suddenly hit close to "your" home a different tune might suddenly be playing...hmmm...?
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02-07-2010, 08:26 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DavidU
I had a nice .22 air rifle, put a sail on a billy cart and zoomed up and down the street. When riding my bike to school I would hold on to the back of a truck while going up hill.
I used to make hydrogen to blow stuff up.
We used to burn off rubbish & cuttings in the back yard. My folks fitted 2 adults and 7 kids in a EK station wagon without seatbelts while burning leaded petrol (with Benzine). We even used to have a ciggy on the plane !
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Ye gods man! And you are still here to tell the tale??
Sure...some changes are for the better..... eg: uleaded fuel, no ciggy's in confined spaces.... but these are based on science, not knee-jerk politics.
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02-07-2010, 08:29 PM
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Yes I know this coming from a family of teachers but it is difficult to follow the rules. My wife & I have hours of work wading through the multitude of paperwork/notices my kids bring home from school.
And don't get me started on homework.
Still Marki,I hold teachers in high regard as it is a demanding job.
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Originally Posted by marki
David the explanation is simple really, can even be summed up in one word...."Insurance". Schools are public institutions that must obey the law when it comes to public liability. As an educator I can tell you how paranoid admin types are when things go wrong. I have been on a camp where a kid broke his leg. Did we call for an ambulance first???? No the first person to be notified is the principle who will get out of bed at 3.00 am and drive 500 miles to the site. Our staff room is wall papered with pics of kids and their million and one ailments which we must be aware of even if we don't teach them. At the start of each year we get a bundle of confidential papers along with our class lists which we must memorise and destroy   . I cannot give a child a panadol if they have a headache, this can only be done by a member of staff who the principle has delegated that task to (school nurse usually) and if the parent has not signed on the dotted line the kid can suffer as tablets will not be given. All medications must be dispensed by the same person. If a kid has an anaphylactic fit I even as a qualified first aid trainer cannot administer the epipen, only the delegate can do that. I can however hand the kid the pen whilst they role around on the ground choking and fitting the epipen in the hope they might accidently stab themselves with it. Why? Insurance agencies dictate terms to minimise their risk. Principles seen as negligent (procedures not in place) will be sacked. The result flows right through the staff down to the play ground. Blanket rules are instated under legal guidence from the relative education authority and if you do not comply it's the end of the line. It's a mad world alright.
Mark
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02-07-2010, 08:29 PM
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According to John Crumby, Julia Faillard, Krudd and Senator Cockroy, DavidU should've died almost as many times as Kenny with a track record like that!
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