Carl is right!

I cant figure it out
took everything apart hoping to find a dead battery somewhere but there is none
hooked it up and flashed the firmware
tried different voltages
sometimes it seems to work for a few seconds then reverts back to weird semi-spanish garble
I didnt mind the old mount in fact i think as a fluke it performed really well ( i remember posting some unguided shots noone believed)
so I'll try the replacement handset and hope this fixes it
If the problem is elsewhere...
who knows maybe i can just control it through the laptop
frank