Fair enough mark, my problem was that it couldn't hold a 40d and with massive axial slop no matter what adjustments i made. and if you get one of them big 2" eps they weigh just about the same as my 40d. once bitten 3 times shy.

I guess for me if im going to spend 120-150 for a new focuser i want it to be a very big upgrade to standard. not just a intermediate upgrade that will only give you a feature not an improvement overall, its just the way i am.
Sure there is a point of deminishing returns but in the realm of low end focusers for less than 100 dollars more you can get yourself a base moonlight focuser that is superior in quality. Better 10:1 pinion gears, Better finish, Better fit, Better everything. and dont get me wrong, for light duty work the 10:1 focuser from GSO is reasonable and "gets the job done" but just like my skywatcher focuser... it too gets the job done and if i really wanted a bit better fine adjustment i should just make a 100mm leaver

which would reduce the ratio of turn!

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I have taken a path though astronomy where if i made a few different decisions i would have been better off and not ripped most of my hair out. If i can pass some of this information on then my job is done.