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Old 29-11-2005, 02:24 PM
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Mirror cooling stage II

Just a quick update.

I have rec some thermal glue thanks to Wombat (Darren)

and have stripped away the existing sticky pad and then use the thermal glue to attach to the mirror.

I then cut a 2" piece of styrofoam about 10mm wide and 10mm thick with a slot for the actual sensor. This went over the sensor and glued into place.

I have measured the fan and will now look for a 56mm holesaw to start cutting a hole for sucking the air out. A few vent holes will help as well.

But first things first, another experiment tonight to see if the sensor is more accurately recording the mirror with hopefully the effects of the surrounding air temp in the tube having been reduced!!!
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Old 29-11-2005, 02:33 PM
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Looking forward to those results Davo

It's an adventurous and full-on kinda bloke who starts cutting holes in his OTA.

I'm sure the end will justify the means
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Old 29-11-2005, 02:39 PM
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actually it is so much fun, until i break something and someone gets hurt!!!

there are 5 or 6 screws at the bottom of the ota for removing the mirror cell. I was so scared when i first took these off!!

you get used to it i spose and more confident!
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Old 29-11-2005, 02:48 PM
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looking forward to reading the results dave

i had a read of birds cooling write-up on his site. thats full of great info.... I plan on getting some heatsink action happening on my scope too now
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Old 29-11-2005, 04:47 PM
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Good stuff DP, I'll watch out for your new results, they might be the same as the old results, but now I'd have more confidence in them :-) :-)

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Old 29-11-2005, 04:52 PM
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Onya DP I've got to admire your enthusiam and persistance to conquer the world of thermal equilibrium...


cheers,
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Old 29-11-2005, 08:38 PM
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Good stuff Dave...another R&D project...have you thought about mounting in a way not to have vibes interfering?...any intensions of using variable speed on the fan?
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Old 29-11-2005, 08:50 PM
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Davo, you have done 4187 alterations to your 10" Dob, motorised, electrified and computerised everything, and you are still going. What are you going to do with this highly modified Robotic 10" when you buy the new 16" in March?
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Old 29-11-2005, 09:11 PM
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Good stuff Dave...another R&D project...have you thought about mounting in a way not to have vibes interfering?...any intensions of using variable speed on the fan?
vibes as in walking near it etc???

the dob buggy has pneumatic tyres whic would dampened any vibes i would think and yes some sort of computer controlled variable resistor can vary.

not sure in this one, birds system is on or off from memory. once the temp has stabilised, and mirror needs to quickly reach ambient and switch off the exhaust fan.

tonight is very overcast and threatening thunder. it seems to have reached a steady temp, so it will be intersting to see how long it takes mirror to catch up. no fan tonight. plan is to cut holes tomorrow and then redo experiment with exhaust fan.
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Old 29-11-2005, 09:22 PM
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vibes as in walking near it etc???
Nope, from the fan, I mounted my fan using 2 soft rubber grommets on each bolt to stop vibrations while the fans running, but I suppose you can turn the fans off while imaging if need be.
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Guys, I turn off all fans etc before I start imaging. Maybe it's just my dodgy-brothers workmanship but I can see vibration from these fans in the image, no matter how carefully I attach the fans.

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Old 29-11-2005, 09:26 PM
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Thanks Bird ,That answered that
I dont image, but I've seen vibrations at the ep with the original solid mounted fan at high mags.
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Old 29-11-2005, 09:31 PM
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I don't get any Vibrations from my fan (even at 6.5mm) and some nights I leave it running all night whilst viewing to keep dew away from the mirrors.
Just lucky I guess.
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Old 29-11-2005, 09:38 PM
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I must say I never noticed visible vibration from my fan when I used to use it. Mounted it behind the mirror with rubber 'O' rings stretched between the fan & the 3 collimation bolts sticking out. The only thing noticable was the rotating mass of air in the OTA as it was drawn down the tube.......or up the tube, which ever way you hooked up the fan. Having it on while viewing was useless.
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Old 29-11-2005, 09:43 PM
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In your case Dave your sucking ACROSS the face of the mirror...a whole different ball game there...as far as 'rotating air mass' = I don't think so.
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Old 29-11-2005, 09:46 PM
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Having it on while viewing was useless.
And that's where having a variable speed comes in handy, finding a speed where you can still view but keeps the fan ticking over to kill the dew and keep the mirror cooling.
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yes i do agree with that!!!.
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Old 29-11-2005, 09:55 PM
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I have no doubt that would work too, yup!
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Old 29-11-2005, 09:57 PM
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clouds are clearing and stars are out, so a temp drop might be in order
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Old 29-11-2005, 10:00 PM
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Might be a dumb question (typical from me) but when I build my Observatory, will it make much of a difference to viewing or imaging if I have a heater on in the observatory. In winter I want to keep my fingy's & toesy's warm.
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