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Old 13-02-2010, 09:23 AM
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Garage Door Opener

How hard is it to convert a typical garage door opener to a roll off roof observatory?

Has anyone done this? Any tips and tricks to be aware of?

I'd like the roof to close itself at the end of the night or if clouds and or rain is detected.

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Old 13-02-2010, 09:41 AM
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I have. It is controlled by ascom too!

I install garage doors/ gate systems for a living.

If you are talking about a sectional operator its not that hard. The trouble is most of the operators have a rolling command structure, ie push button opens, push again closes. Not really desirable, for example you roof is shut and the rain sensor throws a command and the roof will open. I have converted 6 rooves using sectional operators now and they work quite well upto about 2.4 metre throw.

I usually throw out the electronics that come with the operator and use a different controller that allow ascom to control it with seperate open, close, stop inputs. And this board allow me to use limit switches, voltage/speed control, ramp up and ramp down, cloud/rain sensor inputs and heaps of other features.

Be aware that there are huge differences in quality between garage door operators. Make sure they are DC POWERED AND NOT AC. Ac usually has more grunt but you dont want the hassle of 240v.

If I get around to it I'll have to update my observatory thread to show what I have done. If you want I can make up a complete ascom controller the same as mine to work with a dc motor/ garage door operator. Doomsayer has also got one on his observatory, but his is a little more complicated.

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Old 13-02-2010, 09:59 AM
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Thanks Brett

How do I know if it's AC or DC? for example have a look at these three on eBay...

GDO 2 - looks like AC to me
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=320485640680

GDO 7 - looks like AC to me
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=140382313827

Merlin 2600P - not sure??
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=170444406769

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Old 13-02-2010, 10:28 AM
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Thanks Brett

How do I know if it's AC or DC? for example have a look at these three on eBay...

GDO 2 - looks like AC to me
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=320485640680

GDO 7 - looks like AC to me
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=140382313827

Merlin 2600P - not sure??
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI....m=170444406769

James
The Merlin photo has a 240V plug in frame.

If you already have 240V to the obs, why would a mains powered system be any more painful?
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Old 13-02-2010, 12:17 PM
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All the motors there have 240v motors.

I do not encourage non electricians to use 240v for safety. The merlin has 240v on its circuit board tracks as well, most 240v motors have 240v stepped down to 12/24v then have an external relay for 240v switching to keep 240v off the main board.

The standard merlin electronics are not suitable to use with 'cloud sensor input' which means you have to use a seperate 240v controller and playing with 240v is not a good idea let alone cost with relays etc.

Mind you those old merlin motors never seen to die... but that one is very old.

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