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Old 17-01-2010, 08:37 AM
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17 birds with one stone... :)

Hi all..

Well... To kick off the imaging with the ST8300 and the 80/480, I thought I'd pick a fairly rarely imaged target.. I've only seen 3 or 4 shots of this posted on the forums before, and to my recollection, none as wide as this..

This pic has a bit of everything, dark nebs, emission nebs, star clusters, vDB-h Objects, HMSTG objects..

Heres the details...

Taken from :
25km North of Brisbane CBD.

Field centered around :
RA - 11hr
Dec - -61°

Objects Within the FOV.

NGC 3576
NGC 3584
NGC 3581
NGC 3582
NGC 3566
NGC 3579
NGC 3590
NGC 3572
RCW57e
RCW57w
HMSTG348
HMSTG399
HMSTG 343
HMSTG 345
vdB-h47a
vdB-h47b
vdB-h47c

The bright star (Top Center) is mag 4.56 - HIP54751

Center of this FOV lies 3° 57" SE of Eta Carine.

Image Scale : 2.32" Arc Seconds Pixel
Field Of View : 96.7 x 128.5 Arc Minutes

Acquisition details.
LRGB Mapped as L+R : R : G : B (240+15 : 15 : 15 : 15)
All 5 minute subs, RGB binned 2x2..
15x5m darks (B1 and B2)
10 flats (B1 and B2)

Equipment:
TMB/LOMO 80mm F/6
ST8300M @ -10C
FLI CFW 2-7
Astrodon I series LRGB filters
HEQ5 Pro
QHY5 + OAG Guiding.

Full field of view - 50% resolution - 3mb
Full field of view - Small - 256kb

Thanks for looking and reading my novel..

Alex.
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Old 17-01-2010, 08:51 AM
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Didn`t realize there were so many NGC`s in this.
Lovely field of view Alex.
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Old 17-01-2010, 11:08 AM
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Nice shot Expansive FOV, a colourful starfield and a whole buncha nebs to tick off the list What more could you ask for.

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Old 17-01-2010, 11:10 AM
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Nice one Lex ! Well written info too.
Still no word from Gillman yet, I'm getting impatient.
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Old 17-01-2010, 12:04 PM
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Looking good. What a great FOV, just need to get it to a dark sky now and really shoot the deep breeze

Mike
PS. I can't believe that I'll have about the same amount of real estate with the AP and PL16803 (111' X 111') at 1.6"/pix
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Old 17-01-2010, 12:24 PM
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Crowded isn't it
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Old 17-01-2010, 02:34 PM
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Lovely.
Not sure why you asked Bananas in Pyjamas to do your darks and flats for you though...
(B1 and B2)
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i couldn't resist
I'm envious
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Old 17-01-2010, 04:29 PM
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Gary - I was rather amazed myself.. When I went and had a look around starry night, I figured it was maybe 4 or 5 targets in that FOV.. when you take into account vdBh targets, and a few small star clusters in there, and the separate designations for the different areas of emission nebulae all of a sudden the number of targets works its way up.

Thanks for the comments Gary.

Kieth - What more could I ask for? 10 hours of darkness a day would be nice haha.. Its really quite funny.. I'm a narrowfield junky at heart, yet I really love imaging with this massive FOV... having so much sky real estate can really put things in perspective..

David - Thanks, Glad you liked the info.. Gathering the info was actually quite a bit of fun, finding out exactly what I got in the FOV and going through the full res image and identifying them all.. I think I might continue doing that from now on.. Especially when I'm imaging a target that you don't see all the time...

Mike - Thanks mate... I have been wanting to shoot this target for quite a while now... First saw it when you posted the HST image of it a while back.. Thought to myself "I wouldnt mind shooting that" At the time I had a 1624mm focal length and an ST10.. Not exactly the right tools for the job... Now I've got the right tools I figured, why not make that my first image from the new camera in the 80/480?!
The AP/16803 combo will blow your mind, 111x111 @ 1.6" per pixel will be madness... Huge field of view, and the ability to crop out little snippets of the image and have high res close ups... Crazy... at 2.3" per pixel with my setup, I can zoom into 100% however the very finest of fine detail isn't always there...

Trevor - Space mate.. Seems like theres not a lot of it left empty mate.. If I've learned anything from Mr Tom Davis, its that even in areas of space you think are relatively sparse, There is usually something very interesting waiting to be captured...

Frank - Cheers mate, I got B1 and B2 to do my calibration because I was lazy and tired, I figured, they are still in their PJ's, so they must have just woken up.. They should be refreshed, so they can do the calibration frames! hahaha.




Thanks guys... I've got to say, I'm really really happy being able to capture something like this from my light polluted back yard.. I can only imagine what it would have looked like from dark skies with longer subs..

A big thanks to Stuart (Rat156) for the LPS filter... I didn't have to process out light pollution in this shot, where this target sits in the sky is smack bang in the worst light pollution my site has to offer... I'd say I could push out to 10min subs shooting East/North East.
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Old 17-01-2010, 06:55 PM
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Alex,

I love the image and as has been said it is very crowded.

What a the dark nebulosity on the bottom right hand side? Any ideas?

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Old 17-01-2010, 06:59 PM
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Thanks Frank..

The dark areas at the bottom right hand side are HMSTG339 and HMSTG343 (339 is the upper section, 343 is the lower arch of dust)

I am working on a version of this image with all the target zones marked and labeled with their respective designations..

Thanks mate.
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Old 17-01-2010, 07:06 PM
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Thanks Alex. A most interesting area.
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Old 17-01-2010, 08:46 PM
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Certainly an original effort Alex. Smart thinking to find such a suitable field for your setup. Looks great.
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Old 17-01-2010, 09:28 PM
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Very nice Alex. Great colour spread in the stars. I just wonder if you are having a little problem with registration as the stars seem a little bit streaked when magnified. Just something to think about.
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Old 17-01-2010, 09:40 PM
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Alex,

Seeing you present this part of the sky has made me very happy.

It's always a great reminder of the things to come. A bit like seeing the M45's roll in around spring/summer time. This, to me, starts to herald the beginning of the best time of year to image. It's not long now.

Well done.

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Old 17-01-2010, 09:54 PM
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Thanks Doug...

The problem with the stars is that the focuser has a bit of slop in it... It wasn't designed for the 2.8kg load I'm hanging from it, as a result, some of the stars look a little strange... top left/bottom right it seems the worst to me..

I'm working out a few different options to sort this problem out.. supporting the current focuser, installing the FT thats on its way etc.. A mate of mine in the USA using an FLI ML8300 and the 2-7 CFW said that even his 2" FT is sagging under the load.. This makes me worry a little..

H - I'm with you all the way brother.. looking forward to summer imaging! Theres some fantastic targets on the way.. it's going to be amazing
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Old 17-01-2010, 11:21 PM
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Well, I did mean autumn/winter, but, all the same!

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Old 17-01-2010, 11:41 PM
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ahahha.. so was I actually.. Just been caught up with all that summer imaging on the go at the moment that I got my seasons messed up.

I tell you what was spectacular... Watching scorpius rising just before dawn.. Maybe this year is the year that I'll get around to imaging the pipe nebula..
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Nice image and FOV!!

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Old 18-01-2010, 04:02 PM
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Thanks Tom, I've had a play in Starry Nights, I think I'm going to start imaging more with the 0.8x reducer... With the 0.8x reducer my FOV roughly matches your N12 + PL16803.. That essentially is what I want.. I've thoroughly enjoyed viewing your images, and I'm almost a full widefield convert... I still love narrow field imaging.. and have to get a rig together sooner or later, but for now I'm very happy with my massive FOV..
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Old 18-01-2010, 06:47 PM
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Excellent Alex. Good Doodad too!

3 weeks... I'm there!
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